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SJP  
#1 Posted : 24 October 2019 12:52:35(UTC)
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SJP

I have my opinion, but I ask for yours. Should Fall Prevention, Harness and Lanyard, be worn by operatives when using a Scissor Lift?

Thanks

mihai_qa  
#2 Posted : 24 October 2019 13:18:21(UTC)
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mihai_qa

I would say it depends on the work (nature, maintenance, frequency,height). As a 110Kg/6'3 guy I find PFAS cumbersome and uncomfortable, but, then again, at my height most guardrails feel too low and I always wear it. Also, I've seen quite a few instances of "I'll just use the mid-rail real quick to get a little higher" to know that despite the manufacturer's best efforts, things can go south.

Not sure about you, but I would rather be bruised up by the potential swing/arrest than faceplant onto concrete.

My 2 cents.

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Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 24 October 2019 14:20:00(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Depends on your RA - as a generalisation on flat made ground (factory, warehouse) raising to and lowering from a work point no.

Now if your question was about boom lifts / cherry pickers an emphatic yes

Hard hat or bump cap?

Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 24 October 2019 14:20:00(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Depends on your RA - as a generalisation on flat made ground (factory, warehouse) raising to and lowering from a work point no.

Now if your question was about boom lifts / cherry pickers an emphatic yes

Hard hat or bump cap?

RayRapp  
#5 Posted : 24 October 2019 16:31:49(UTC)
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RayRapp

The general rule is scissor lifts no harness and lanyard and cherry pickers do require them except when working over or adjacent to water. The only other thing I can add is to check the manufacturer's instructions.

paul.skyrme  
#6 Posted : 25 October 2019 10:31:01(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

If you are talking about fall arrest they must never be worn in powered access equipment.

The operatives must be using fall restraint.

A MEWP is not a rated connection point for a fall arrest harness, and as it varies in height, the fall may be from a lower level than which the arrest mechanism will deploy.

The product standard for a scissor lift does not have any requirements for fall restraint anchor points.

The product standard for a boom lift does.

The IPAF rules are fall restraint in a boom lift.  Unlesss near water, as Ray has said, in which case boyancy aids will be required, possibly a combination of both.  No harness in a scissor lift.  The trainer I had for my last IPAF course actually stopped a course and cancelled it on the spot, because the H&S advisor on site insisted that he and the operatives wore harnesses in scissor lifts and would not allow the training without them.  He had no choice as IPAF rules would not allow him to train with harnesses in scissor lifts.

You need to look at the fundemental primary failure mode that requires the restaint harness in the first place and understand this, it cannot happen with a scissor lift.

Edited by user 25 October 2019 10:32:34(UTC)  | Reason: Corrected typo

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SJP  
#7 Posted : 25 October 2019 10:41:45(UTC)
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SJP

Thanks to all who replied.

The point was about Harness and a Fixed/Adjustable lanyard, and I have to agree with all the statements, scissor lift NO, MEWP Yes.

A fall arrest lanyard/extending reel block should never be used in a MEWP

Paul: The product standard for a scissor lift does not have any requirements for fall restraint anchor points. I have seen older equipment with anchor points for restraint.

Why the original question - some of our clients have their own rules which can be above the legal requirement and so we have to comply.

paul.skyrme  
#8 Posted : 25 October 2019 11:11:59(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

I will try and check EN 280, but I don't hav a copy with me.

The client requiring more than the legal minimum is not the issue, the client going against the training that the operators have had in accordance with the IPAF licence should not be allowed.

I had one client say that the operatives had to wear a harness in a scissor lift in case it was hit by a forklift!

My answer was that if I was in the lift and they were allowing forklift movements at the base I wouldn't be in the lift for long, I would simply refuse to use it.

I would and have refused to work on MEWPS when I have been asked to do so out of compliance with my IPAF training, and will consider to do so, if the client doesn't like it tough.  They can go to IPAF or HSE and see what they say, else I will.

You cannot safely operate a scissor lift when wearing a restraint harness.

IPAF say, not normally necessary here:

https://www.ipaf.org/en-gb/resource-library/fall-protection-mewps-h1

A scissor lift requires the operator to move all the way around the platform when lowering, this is not possible when wearing a restraint harness, thus this increases the hazard to the operator and anyone who may be below the platform.

I don't have my operators guide with me at the moment, I'm sat on a train. Same reason I don't have EN 280 to hand. Any PAL card holder must have a copy of the booklet, and if they are operating in accordance with their terms of licence should be getting their log book signed whenever possible.

I would suggest reference to ISO 16368 would be the best course of action.

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