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DavidPIMS  
#1 Posted : 16 February 2022 09:22:25(UTC)
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DavidPIMS

Good Morning all, 

Quick Question we have had a near missed rasied against us on site. 

The PM has stopped our forklift driver because he was oprating a forklift without a load and he did not have a empty pallet or the forks tied up.  

I cannot find any legislation stating this has to happen, the forklift was working on flat tarmac. 

the induction for site and CCP do not state this practace, and training given did not state this? 

We have been oprating this forklift on site for 6 months and not had a issue untill we brough up a health and safety issue (we are feeling this is very tit for tat) 

does anybody no of any code of practices regarding this?   

Thank you 

CptBeaky  
#2 Posted : 16 February 2022 10:22:54(UTC)
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CptBeaky

I have never heard of this as being a thing, and I have trained to drive a fork lift in the past. Every time I received training I was told that when you have no load on the forks you are to drive with the forks as low as practicable and tilted backwards.

Obviously specific sites may have specific rules, but this is one I have never heard of. Here is a quote from a random training site, which confirms my training (almost word for word!).

"When driving an unladen truck the forks must be positioned as low as practicable and tilted back."

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Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 16 February 2022 12:08:53(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Someone confusing an FLT with telehandlers where the tynes can be swung back?

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Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 16 February 2022 12:08:53(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Someone confusing an FLT with telehandlers where the tynes can be swung back?

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Kate  
#5 Posted : 16 February 2022 16:20:29(UTC)
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Kate

This is baffling.

It is perfectly acceptable and perfectly normal to drive a forklift about without anything on the forks.  As mentioned the forks just have to be lowered and tilted.

Otherwise it would be quite tricky to go and collect your next load after putting down the last one.

Was that really the issue that was raised?  I find it unbelievable.

However I also want to comment on the term "raised against us" of a near miss.  Someone reporting a near miss isn't making an accusation against you.  They are telling you about something that has gone wrong and that you need to know about.  (Perhaps not in this case obviously.)

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DavidPIMS  
#6 Posted : 16 February 2022 16:57:54(UTC)
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DavidPIMS

Thanks Kate This is baffling. to me to but the Near miss report states moving a forklift for some without a empty pallet or forks tied up. 

hopefully I will get it cleared up in the H/S meeting tomorrow. 

peter gotch  
#7 Posted : 16 February 2022 17:41:34(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi David

I suppose one of the questions is WHO is raising this "near miss"?

If an external auditor, you are perfectly entitled to ask them to justify their finding!

If you pay the external auditor you are perfectly entitled to find someone else.

But, as has been said how else would you move an FLT to pick up its next load without driving with the forks down (and tilted back)?

If this person was taking issue with the forks being raised in transit we could understand their concern!

Kate  
#8 Posted : 17 February 2022 09:06:16(UTC)
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Kate

Let us know how it goes!

DavidPIMS  
#9 Posted : 23 February 2022 16:05:14(UTC)
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DavidPIMS

Well after talking with the Clients Health and Safety Director the Near Miss report has been removed. 

he was also baffled :-) 

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IanDakin  
#10 Posted : 07 March 2022 16:32:29(UTC)
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IanDakin

Hi David

Sounds strange. The training and safe use of forklift trucks is covered in HSE L117. So you may want to refer to that document with the PC.

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