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Posted By Jason McQueen
Im applying for a job where it asks me to state my salary expectations. The only problem is that I have no real idea as to what a reasonable amount is. The post asks for a NEBOSH Certificate holder, which I am but makes no mention of desired experience etc by which you could guage it by. So what is the going rate for a health and safety co-ordinator at certificate level. The post is in the north of England so theres no need to account for London expenses. I dont want to over estimate or sell my self short.
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Posted By peter gotch
Jason,
This is one of the "how long is a piece of string" questions.
Depends on your background and experience including in roles other than H&S
You could send the ball back into their court with response such as
"Subject to negotiation"
After all it is as much their job to sell the position to you, as it is the your job to sell yourself to them!
Interviews should be a two way process.
Good luck
Peter
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Posted By Mick O'Neill
Jason,
A sensible yardstick as a starting point is - look at other advertised vacancies for similar roles in the Safety and Health Practioner and see what they are offering. Benchmark your requirements against these and add a little more based on your potential to them. Off course the straightforward answer is how much do you need to earn to live comfortably.?
Good luck
Mick
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Posted By Jason McQueen
I agree that this would be the best idea, the only problem is that I dont have access to the practioner. Is there any way I can get a copy without being a member of IOSH? Or could anyone who has a copy give me the information? If so it would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted By Paul Adams
As others have said, difficult to say, I asked for what I need plus a bit more, got it and things have improved since then. (I am based in North East). One thing I would ask for is a financial commitment to help you achieve MIOSH. If the organisation is serious about what they want you to achieve, they will support your ambitions in this area. If, however, they are going through the motions, then you are better off elsewhere.
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Posted By Geoff Burt
Right guys - lets look at this logically
1. will you be the only H&S employee
2. what are the extent of your duties and responsibilities
3. how big is the company
4. is it an established company with an element of security of employment
4a.do they have just one premises or lots
5. what do they do ie is it high risk activies
6. is it a local authority (if so deduct £5k)
7. what experience do you need to have had
8. what benefits do they offer
9. what is a typical salary in that area
10.is there any travel involved
Once we get some information we can start talking some figures. It will still be guesswork but at least it will be educated guesswork.
Geoff
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Posted By Steve
A few weeks ago a company in North Staffordshire were offering £24k for a suitable person with a NEBOSH Cert, on the other hand, the local County Council were advertising a postion for a Graduate with MIOSH for £21k ??????
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Posted By PETER GANNAWAY
In parts Civil Service this post would be at what is called band D level, which goes from about 15k upto 24k. On the basis that pay is lower in the CS due to non contributory pension, I would add about 12% to either end for copmmercial use. Most people going into these posts in the CS are already in the system for some time so my guess would be about £21-22k + 12% as a reasonable comparitor.
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Posted By John Murphy
Jason.
In local authority, jobs are properly and independently evaluated against specific criteria such as responsibility, budget management, staff management, position in the management strucure, the roles and responsibilities of the job. You may wish to consider a chat with your local County or Metropolitan Safety Manager with a view to comparing job descriptions and salary scales. This may give you a basis upon which to form your salary range expectation. (I would commend a salary range as this gives you something with which to negotitate) Contrary to earlier "advice" local government tends to be paid less than the private sector but again you can compare this in adverts in the Practitioner. (PS Local Government will always state the salary range for the post being advertised).
Good luck
John
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Posted By Harry
Also see current thread in this forum headed 'vacancies' - depends on area, employer and other factors.
Harry
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Posted By N Derbyshire
Jason,
I am a recruiter specialising in Health and Safety, in my experience, I would advise you to leave the section blank. for the following reasons:
i; you may put £20,000, and the client is already expecting to pay £25,000! congratulations you have lost £5,000!!!
ii; you may put £20,000, the client is only looking to pay £18,000 and although you may accept £18,000, the client rejects you on the basis of the £20k!
iii; if you put nothing and the client is interested remember this..... "the first person to mention money loses" and if they have to ask what your expectations are...... you have them!!!!
Good luck.
Neil Derbyshire.
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Posted By Andy
Jason,
Personally, I am interested in how you got on.
How about a little feedback?
Regards
Andrew
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