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Posted By SRJ
I have been reading these forums for a while now, and a lot of people seem to be in the same position, E.g qualifications no jobs or experience needed, i was a IT technician with a Microsoft certification etc and within 16 months jobs went from £18ph down to £8ph in London. Now lots of IT people cannot get jobs etc.
I just seem to be seeing more and more adverts for H&S courses and amore and more people looking for work, is the profession getting over crowded?
Your thoughts please
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Posted By David Cameron
There are plenty of opertunities out there for everyone. Its just hard to meet certain elements of teh criteria they lay down on a lot of the adverts. I have found that H&S is turning more inwardly for the hunt for people to work on health and safety rather than look outwardly for pratitioners.
There are still vacancies out there asking for certificate level but they are getting fewer and further between. Just keep looking and have confidence in yourself to try those posts that seem just outside your reach. you may be lucky and the face fitting and confidence might get you the position above the qulaifications and experience which can be gained with the support of an employer. good luck
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Posted By Mike Miller
I agree. It was the same with teaching. Some years ago there was a shortage of people taking up a teaching career.
Government & the universities addressed this and encouraged people to follow the profession. Not long after there was a glut of teachers and too few jobs, many gave up and retrained. We have a shortage once again but now no one wants to know (who can blame them)
I have said it before on another thread, No one seems to want to take on new blood and If they do they want to pay buttons.
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
Buttons is welcome to the job (when the panto season is finished, of course).
Paul
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Posted By Jay Joshi
I don't think you can make the same comparision of the late 1990's IT boom and recent published increase in positions for safety practitoners and courses.
The late 1990's IT boom was fuelled by 2 factors--the Y2K problem (this was known to be temporary) and the unrealistic expectations of the practicalities "dotcom" businesses, especially the telecom sector.
Obviously, as more businesses took the ICT as a an effective tool there was going to be demand--but the above 2 factors led to the boom and eventual bust.
There are also other global factors that come into play such as recession/lack of demand in major economies.
I very much doubt that safety profession have experienced such massive increases in hourly or other renumeration!
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Posted By Chris Abbott
I agree with Jay, having been an IT contractor on silly money, and Full Time IT professional, and now a Safety Advisor - there were extenuating circumstances. A lot of the IT cost bubble stemmed from agencies praying on the companies fear of Y2K - I know just how much we paid our "advisors" - some were at almost £500 ph. - and extreme case, this was due to in-house production software systems not Y2K compliant and therefore would stop the plant completely when transition occurred… well that's what they said anyway ;)
It was only reasonable that companies would start to think.. Just how much should we be paying these guys! Most of the IT contractors were able to demand a lot more than they should have, on very limited accreditation. In my opinion out-sourcing and IR35 were the cause of a lot of the troubles in the IT industry - agencies taking huge-expense away from the larger companies, offering the same service much cheaper, with better guarantees (proving that they don't need to pay staff as much as they did) - and IT Contractor staff converting to a permanent position on less money, also proved the point that companies just didn't have to pay £30+ ph for a Desktop Engineer.
My experience so far in the Health & Safety fraternity is one of cost vs. theoretical and practical knowledge.
Regards
Chris
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Posted By paul crossland
I don't think it's overcrowded with useful, intelligent, knowledgeable professionals. I've interviewed over 40 "qualified" people for H&S roles in the past 12 months, and seen dozens of CVs. There is a large number of people out there who are nowhere near as useful as they should be, and in our field that equates to an increased risk for everyone they look after.
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