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Posted By moklis
I have TechSP grade membership. Does anyone know how I can gain MIOSH without doing a diploma. I have 3 years work experience in H&S and have completed various H&S courses (NEBOSH Cert, NCFE Intermediate H&S Cert, TUC H&S Cert, CIEH Advanced CIEH H&S Cert, CITB SMST).
Also, is it possible to gain MIIRSM if I have TechSP IOSH and the above qualification.
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Posted By Smurfer
you can do a degree?? ..... ;-)
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Posted By Laurence Davis
You might well get Membership of IIRSM with your current quals.
IOSH membership routes are available on this web site. you can do a degree or undertake a level 6 diploma or an NVQ ENTO level 6 with an additional open book exam to gain membership, The British safety council are also launching a scheme/examination which may now be acceptable for membership of IOSH so its worth speaking to them about it as well
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Posted By moklis
I don't want to do a degree neither (it takes too long).
Does anyone know how long the British Safety Council Diploma takes, is it around 6months p-time??
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Posted By Rob T
Why don't you do the Diploma? If everyone just wanted to get MIOSH quickly (as most people would) then what's the point of setting the Diploma standard. All the MIOSH's have either done the Diploma, NVQ , Degree or post-grad - please tell me and the rest of us why you should be any different? The extra qualifications would give you CPD points - once again the same as the rest of us. Let's not have any easy routes IOSH as I'm sure you won't.
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Posted By Jim Walker
Spot on Rob.
If you can't be bothered to put in the effort, then join IISRM
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Posted By DW
Try a Cornflakes packet I'm hoping to find mine there !!!! :-)
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Posted By gham
At least provide some advice or information before the extracting the michael
You could go down the NVQ route to avoid the Studying
Or wait till Christmas and try a cracker
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Posted By gham
to be fair though many other institutes do have alternative routes for those who have had years and years of experience by producing a record of competence or demonstrating compentence by other means. I find it frustrating at time too
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Posted By moklis
I asked if anyone knew how much the British Safety Council Diploma is and also if it's possible to get MIOSH without doing a Diploma/degree.
If you know then reply, if not then don't bother replying with useless information and wasting my time.
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Posted By Steven
Have e-mailed you direct
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Posted By Paul Grey
Moklis,
As far as I know, with the new changes in the membership with IOSH changing to CMIOSH the BSC diploma does not hold the same weight as either a degree, diploma or NVQ4. So you could end up going down the BSC route and being able to gain MIOSH or CMIOSH.
However, I think the BSC are changing their courses to suit the membership changes. Have a look at their website.
Cheers
Paul
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Posted By Laurence Davis
I believe and right in saying that the NEBOSH dip 2 has a pass rate of about 37%, not withstanding that NVQ still stands for not very qualified in the eyes of a great deal of employers, (the problem being that whilst NVQs are a great idea they are poorly organised and have massively different ways of trying to achieve the ENTO standards across the country).
If your good at examinations/short term knowledge retention and can speak the lingo then go for NEBOSH if not take a degree. If BSC get their course passed the entry requirements for IOSH it will presumably be just as hard to pass as a NEBOSH diploma.
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Posted By Hazel Harvey
Moklis,
British Safety Council Awards offer a Level 6 Diploma in Occupational Safety and Health (DipOSH). It is acredited by QCA and by IOSH as meeting the academic requirment for Graduate Membership (leading to Chartered Member after a period of IPD). Starting from scratch it takes 6 weeks based on 3 units of 2 weeks each plus examination time.
If you have recognised QCA accredited qualifications such as the NEBOSH Certificate you can gain one week's exemption. If you have the old DipSM from BSC you can gain 3 weeks exemption. Check out their web-site for details.
Also available at a similar level are NEBOSH Diploma, and some qualifications from Universities (see our web-site) which are usually delivered over 1 year on a day-release basis.Normally 35 weeks or occasionally block release similar to the BSC Awards qualification.
The NVQ has also attracted numbers of people over the last few years, this can be developed at your own speed but normally would take around 12 months to complete.
All the providers are hyperlinked from the IOSH web-site - look in the courses section which you can access from the panel on the left.
Any other queries call our membership department.
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Posted By john wilson
Moklis
Why not do NVQ? With the knowledge and experience you have already you are part way there and should be able to put a portfolio together. "Speaking the lingo and being good at examinations/short term knowledge retention" does not necessarily make someone a good Safety Practitioner.Potential employers now reading negative comments about NVQ'S does not help those professionals who have worked hard to achieve the required standard to gain employment and to indeed maintain MIOSH status. Moklis I would choose this route if you do not wish to take an exam. Do some research to find the best provider and negotiate your own timescales.
Good Luck
John
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Posted By C Harris
I could not agree more, having sat both my general certificate and construction certificate by exam then doing an NVQ level 4 I can say that infantile comments such as 'Not Very Qualified' are insulting to 99 per cent of people who will have worked very hard to gain the NVQ.
I am also of the opinion that the NVQ means you really have to do the job to get the evidence required hence being exposed to day to day pressures, this prepares you well. So my message is this, almost everyone will have had to work very, very hard to gain their qualifications (which ever they may be) so let's all remember that when judging peoples achievements.
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Posted By Rod Meadows
I agree Snorty, it was a particularly gross comment and I have vented my feelings on it to Hazel Harvey, I wasn't going to say anything but as the day has progressed it has incensed me even more, so all those at the CROSSROADS of their career and looking for another job and have the NVQ may as well not apply to some companies!!!
I have worked hard over the years to gain the CIEH Advanced, NEBOSH Cert & Dip 1 and Env Dip & NVQ 4, Fire Safety Management and play the saxophone!!!!! and been throu the mill to get them, so people on here should give credit where it's due
Rodders
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze
To be fair Rod, if you read the statement, (very useful exam tip that!) the poster did not say it was their own opinion.
Like it or not, SOME people do mistakenly believe such tosh about NVQ's. (I do not by the way , even though I completed the exam route).
It is however useful to find out the general marketability of a qualification prior to investing money, time and effort.
Congratulations btw to anyone who has recently gained the NVQ 4.
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Posted By C Harris
your right to point out that the poster did not say that the 'Not Very Qualified' jibe was his own opinion and I noted that when I read his post, however it is a common snipe and one that should be challenged everytime it rears it's ugly head!
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze
In which case, I back you 100%
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Posted By Rod Meadows
To be fair Johnathon,
the poster didn't snipe (as with exam tip!) however if research is done (have to do loads for the NVQ) as I said before it leads to general opinion of people at the Safety crossroads of their careers,it's no good people sniping in general because they may be an academic, my mentor would run rings round anybody and his quals were not half as good as anybody on this site and he didn't have membership,however he WAS VERY GOOD in safety matters,
lets get off this and give people their due
Rodders
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Rod,
You old bucket of ....... give me bell next time down in the West Country!!
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Posted By Bobby Joyce
Hear is a new one, I live in the rep.Ireland & ave just completed year 1 of a two year fulltime Advanced diploma inoccupational health, safety & risk managment. this is being run through the Institute of Commercial Management in the UK.The Irish course is more in depth than the british ICM equivelant & after Year 1 with my exam results I have been provided with a Diploma in the field. as I m now in year two, I wonder wher this will sit me in stead for membership? Does any one have any ideas?
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Posted By Hazel Harvey
Bobby,
I am afraid we are not aware of the course that you mention so at the moment it will not give you the academic requirement for Grad IOSH (now replacing MIOSH for new entrants). The course could be OK it might be worth speaking to your tutor to see if they would like to apply for accreditation for the course.
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Posted By Laurence Davis
Sorry to go back just for a second, but I have just come back to this forum having been away. I just need to clarify that I am an NVQ assessor myself and think very highly of NVQ's, I was simply highlighting the perception of Employers which I have to correct on a weekly if not daily basis.
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Think that the problem with NVQ's, is employers see them as a 'thing' which shopfloor employees can do etc and do not equate them to 'Higher Education' so may be do not get the kudos they deserve! From a NEBOSH Dip Holder at that!
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Posted By Gerry Knowles
I am getting a bit tired of people be-littling the NVQ route. Surely it is not how you get to MIOSH or indeed CMIOSH it is the fact you have got there. Our institute accepts NVQ and other qualifications for various levels of membership so once attained the qualification becomes a bit meaningless, we are at the end of the day all members of the same organisation and hopefully working to the same standards.
I progressed through the NEBOSH cert and then decided to follow the NVQ route. It has been said that it is an easy option. I can tell you it isn't it was 15 months of really hard work which left me with a massive portfolio to prove my experience. It was probably one of the most rewarding things I have done and gave me great satisfaction.
I feel it is time we stopped dwelling on how we gained membership and the qualifications we hold and started to say we are MIOSH or whatever and that is the end of it. It is afterall the way you do the job and the quality of the advice you give that counts. Not the badge on the wall.
Gerry Knowles
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney
Gerry
BRAVO!
CFT
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Posted By Jay Joshi
It is regretable that not enough is know about the National Qualification Framework in context of how different routes to either academic or vocational qualifications are "mapped". Even in the old framework, a level 4 NVQ was always considered as a "management qualification"--nothing shopfloor about it. This also applies to employers whose perceptions are based on anecdotal evidence anmd not factual information.
There is a QCA (Qualifications and Curriculam Authirity) factsheet on the "new" National Qualifications Framework at
http://www.qca.org.uk/do...s/8856_NQF_factsheet.pdf
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