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#1 Posted : 14 November 2005 22:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By ash Does anyone know (or know any websites where I can find out) the equivalent route to qualification in the USA to the NEBOSH general cert/dip 1, level 4/dip 2 route in the UK (ie by examination)? Alternatively, any info on UK courses on US SHE law would be beneficial (or internationally recognised qualifications). Cheers...
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#2 Posted : 14 November 2005 23:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Karen Brooks Ash, good luck. I have the NEBOSH cert and live and work in the US. As yet no recipricol arrangement and my educational review came up with no equivelant. There is a CSP (Certified Safety Professional) qualification, and as yet that is not recipricated with the U.K. You may want to look at doing the UK courses by distance learning (I would ask IOSH for advice on this). You may want to look at the following US Safety sites: www.nsc.org www.cdc.gov/niosh/about I hope this helps, if you find any equivelents that are recipricated let me know. Keep smiling!.
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#3 Posted : 15 November 2005 11:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Selvaraju Jeyaseelan Hi Persons having Charted Staus (CMIOSH or CFIOSH) through IOSH, UK can now become a Certified Safety Professional (CSP) by writing the comprehensive practice exam conducted by Board of Certified Safety Professionals, USA. Persons with CMIOSH OR CFIOSH need not go through the screening process and given a waiver on writing 'Safety Fundamentals'exam. Please visit http://www.bcsp.org/for downloading forms and details. I could not find any such reciprocal agreement shown in IOSH website for persons holding CSP designations. I would be greatful if some one provide information in this regard Jeyaseelan
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#4 Posted : 15 November 2005 21:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Kimmins Ash My opinion is that the US and the UK have gone slightly different paths in ways to recognize competence in a profession. In the UK you get to be a member of a professional institute or organization at a certain level depending on your qualifications, experience and competence. This level of membership is recognized by professionals, employers and the legal system as a sort of certification. So MIOSH (ignoring the ongoing changes) has been regarded as competence in the safety field. The US, like the UK lets you join organizations and an institution at an appropriate level based upon qualifications and experience, but has a separate process for recognizing competence. This is the CSP that a previous respondent wrote about. I guess the nearest we would have got to something similar is the now defunct ‘RSP’. Again in the UK we would put MIOSH or CMIOSH as designatory letters after our name, but would not in the US. I am a ‘Professional Member’ (US Speak for corporate member) of the American Society of Safety Engineers, but nobody in the US would put PM-ASSE after their name. Again the certifying boards which grant designations, of which CSP is just one of many are independent of institutions but have representations from lots of institutions on their board. CSP in the US could be done through self study and the exams taken when you are ready. Personally I’m more in favor of the UK system because it is not ‘just an exam’ but is a more holistic approach to prove competence. If you wanted to do a CSP in the UK you could probably buy the books to study from, but I’m not sure if you’d find anywhere to sit the exam! Try their website at http://www.bcsp.org/bcsp/index.php Here are some other sites from organizations that also grant ‘designations’. http://www.bcpe.org/ http://www.abih.org/ http://www.nfpa.org/ http://www.aicpcu.org/ Not sure if I answered your question or just confused you on what to do next! You can drop me an e-mail if you have a specific question. Good luck. David
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#5 Posted : 16 November 2005 13:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Eric Meittunen Dear Ash: The Associate Safety Professional (ASP) is the foundation exam for the Board of Certified Safety Professionals and the Certified Safety Professional (CSP) is the second of the exams. To sit for the exams you need to have about 5 years of experience and academic preparedness as noted on the BCSP website. The range for the multi-choice exams are very broad and seem to be transitioning from technical to more strategic, ethical, and training based as this is where the profession seems to be moving the the states. Five hour long exams with no breaks and 200 questions for each and only offered at computer testing center areas. I took the exam missed passing by a point then took the prep class and found it really helped. The best course suggested by many is in this link and is taught by two funny fellows from the New Orleans area who are also PhDs so they know their topic. The course is offered at major conferences like the American Society of Safety Profs, the AHIA, and the National Safety Conference. I believe that the BSCP at http://www.bcsp.org/bcsp/index.php just formed an agreement reciprocating the first exam and you could find more information by calling them or the ASSE at 847.296.9221 or ASSE.org office is in the Chicago area. http://www.aiha.org/Cont...mPreparationWorkshop.htm The best of luck. Eric, CSP
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