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#41 Posted : 14 December 2005 14:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By dave Tierney Same as a number of other members really. Started out as a NUPE shop steward and safety rep in 1979. I worked in Local Government in the Waste Management sector. I attended numerous H&S courses at the TUC centre in Crouch End London. The TUC ran loads of H&S courses in the late eighties early nineties when the six-pack came out and I attended them all. Took a major TU role in undertaking risk assessments for all disciplines within the Waste Management sector. IT was during this time I decided to take a more formal approach to my qualifications and was successful in completing the Certificate in H&S in November 1996. Having this qualification and my experience enabled me to get my first formal H&S post in the Social Care Department, this was as a H&S trainer, I developed designed and delivered training in Manual Handling, Food Hygiene, Fire Safety, First Aid (first Local Authority to be accredited by the HSE to deliver the First Aid at Work) I delivered the training for about five years during which time obtained the Cert Ed Post 16 qualification. I was elected as the UNISON branch H&S officer in 1998; this enabled me to have a wider role in H&S. I became involved in all areas of H&S from Social Care, Education, Environment, leisure and Grounds Maintenance; I also undertook the IOSH branch route to become a Tech SP. In 2001, I applied for and was successful in becoming the H&S safety Officer within the Housing Department. After about two years in this position, I started completing a NVQ4 in H&S and in 2003; I became a member of IOSH (now CMIOSH). This year due to the Housing Stock being transferred away from local Government, I have become the H&S Manager for one of the largest registered social landlords in the UK with 32,000+ housing stock. I owe where I am today to the trade union movement, it provided me with the opportunity to become involved with H&S at the grass root level. It also gave me the confidence to progress my career in the field of H&S. It may have taken me 17 years to get a step on the H&S career ladder, but I believe the apprenticeship I served for those 17 years has provided me with the skills, knowledge and understanding of H&S in a variety of disciplines at grass root level. Dave T
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#42 Posted : 14 December 2005 15:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richie A career in the Army as an Environmental Health Technician involved alot of safety. So I suppose I am one of the very few who started out with such a career in mind!! Richie.
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#43 Posted : 15 December 2005 13:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Derrick Robinson Back in the late 80s I was working in purchasing and I was part of a team trying to implement these new fangled COSHH regulations. After a few weeks of non productive meetings I made the mistake of saying that we were never going to get anywhere unless 1 person took the job on, my colleagues rapidly pushed their paperwork across the table and ran like ****. After that along came the Environmental Protection Act and the requirement to register the process and that came my way because "its a bit like COSHH" Setting up and running an Environmental Management System and taking the company through ISO 14001 remained a second job for the next 10 years, along the way I acquired AIEMA qualification. When the company decided to go also for BS 18001 accreditation I was asked to move over full time to what had by then become a properly staffed H and S department, as I had the management systems experience from my work on 14001. I learnt the safety side on the job, doing first NVQ 3, then NVQ4 and lots of short courses. I am now MIOSH and hoping to become CMIOSH when I complete my first CPD cycle in Jan 07. So I have gone round full circle, after about 16 years I am back doing COSHH assessments, amongst many other things.
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#44 Posted : 15 December 2005 13:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Cathy Ricketts Trained as an agricultural secretary in the 70s and came from agricultural background. Spend 2 years working for a transport company where H & S was non existent (the office was so cold there was ice on the inside of the windows and I used to type with mitts on) and we had a derv tank about 25 yds from the office window where the lorries filled up and please dont mention workplace vehicles and H & S (what a nightmare) Spent time in retail and accountancy and then eventually after birth of two children went back to work and became an Office Manager who "Did" h & S and was give opportunity to do manageing safely. Got bitten by the bug. Vacancy came up for PT H & S Officer got that and within three months it became full-time. Now have Nat Dip Pt 2 and half way through LLB, member of IOSH Education Sector Committee and share local branch sec role and education adviser role - wish I had chosen route earlier - love being able to help people see the sense in working safely and have watched a big cultural change its been a very rewarding opportunity. Dont know what I want to be when I grow up but for the time being very happy in present role
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#45 Posted : 15 December 2005 14:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Geoff S Bottomley I was told that Safety was only as good as the weakest link. I didn't wont to be the weakest link. I am now H & S manager Construction awaiting Dip 2 results.
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#46 Posted : 15 December 2005 16:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gerry Knowles Like a lot of people I fell into the Health and Safety profession. I had work for the old ICI Fibres Division and was taken over by the DuPont in 1992. The safety standards were being brought up to Dupont levels which was quite a shock for some people as we already thought we were good. Anyway I took an interest and got involved as an QSHE auditor and managed to get onto a lot of the H&S teams and took a real interest in emergency management and the working of QSHE systems. Then in about 1998 I fell ill and was off work for a long time and then only returned on a rehab basis. So my shift career was over and the company said we need a new SHE manager for the manufacturing area. Their is your desk an phone get on with it. The the site emergency planning managers'job was added. The company were very good and funded me through all the training and I gained a lot of valuable experience. So I had made it a respected member of an honourable profession. The world was at my feet or so I thought. Then about 18 months ago the company was sold and a lot of us were in redundant jobs. So off I went into the big wide world of consultancy. The best thing I ever did. I now have a good client base and do a fair amount of insurance company work. So I'm glad I fell into health and safety but not that I was ill. Oh wellevery cloud and silver lining springs to mind. It is providing me a good living and I drive around the country meeting lots of people and never going in the same direction two days running. The only problem is my father thinks I should get a proper job. With manual labour. Gerry Knowles
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#47 Posted : 15 December 2005 16:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Liam Mc Conalogue Many many years ago as an ex-commercial fisherman I witnessed an accident which resulted in a deckhand sufferring horrendous crushing injuries all because an ignorant skipper kept shouting at the young man to work harder. I then got into construction and saw some risky tasks being performed by operatives all because their boss was giving them hell. I decided H&S was the best route to go if I was going to ATTEMPT to change attitudes, which I have to say can sometimes be an extremely difficult task indeed, but highly rewarding when success in achieved. Liam
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#48 Posted : 19 December 2005 13:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By William O'Donnell I left school at 15, with no qualifications. At the time the small town where I lived was heavily industralised. We had five coal mines, three foundries and several heavy and light engineering firms. Consequently my formative working years were spent surrounded by the consequences of poor health and safety. Men, and women, with back backs, bad knees, all sorts of respiratory disorders, hearing loss etc. As you may suspect, this had a profound effect on my outlook on the subject of health and safety. It may not sound very professional, but I did not become a health and safety officer as a career advancement move but to do what ever I could do (no matter how small) to prevent the consequences that I witnessed as a young lad. As I seek advancement in knowledge, and recognition, within my chosen field I hope that I never lose sight of that one over-riding principle.
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#49 Posted : 19 December 2005 13:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gordon Thelwell A good friend of mine was killed whilst at work. I now work in the sector where he died.
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#50 Posted : 19 December 2005 15:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lynne Ratcliffe Worked for a (sym)pathetic employer (in 1999) who made us purchase our own safety gear (boots etc) and bought engine degreaser that dissolved the disposable latex gloves (the only PPE he provided) - his attitude it is not dissolving your skin so carry on. He also sprayed paint with no extraction unit - result I am now so sensitised to solvents, voc etc that i have to carry an adrenilin pen, cannot shop in malls, have to leave anywhere that has been painted for fear of anaphylactic shock and respiratory failure. I decided i should do something to protec the likes of me in the future from employers like him. It makes people I have worked with since appreciate aspects of health and safety a little bit more than just a picture!
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#51 Posted : 19 December 2005 16:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By rory patrick reed I served in the Royal Navy for over 19 years and sought a different career path. I attended a variety of resettlement information days and whilst attending one in Plymouth felt that the speakers where likeable; interesting and passionate. It lit a beacon inside and subsequently applied for a 6 week safety management course in Plymouth. Whilst on the course I applied for my first full time health and safety post in Glasgow and was successful...... I am now a chartered OHSP working as the Head of Corporate Responsibility for the Scottish Executive.
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#52 Posted : 20 December 2005 16:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Natalie Roclawski I unlike most of the others responding to this question did not have vast experience in industries before I started in safety nor did I go into safety because of an accident. I was advised by a wise "old" man (a relative of mine) that it would be a good career to get into and I would enjoy the work. He was right. I left school and did a degree in safety, health and environmental management then gained the 5 years of valuable experience I have to date. Natalie Roclawski CMIOSH
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#53 Posted : 21 December 2005 15:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Simon Tam God led me to health and safety! Oop... safety and health. Personally, I have a clear vision and mission that safety and health profession is the most meaningful profession on earth, we act like angels to guard our colleagues against evil things, to forsee dangers before they become a source of threats and to remind "people" the true meaning of quality and purposive "life"! Simon Tam
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#54 Posted : 23 December 2005 15:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alexander Falconer After many years as a QA Engineer, and getting disillusioned with the old BS 5750 standards/implementing management systems. I approached my then employer (engineering manufacturer of forgings) "where did he see myself in 5 years time", he then asked if I would like to get myself involved in Risk Assessments (thanks Allan, wherever you are now). Duly despatched off to Leamington Spa to gain my NEBOSH certificate, courtesy of OSTAS (indebted to you Craig & Sam). Armed with this knowledge I set about putting wrongs, right, then suddenly realising that I could only scrape the surface of the extensive knowledge within the H&S Sectors. Over the last 10 years have gained much guidance and knowledge through the ranks within many fields, Semi-Conductor Manufacturer (Thanks to Rory at Scot Exec), Sheet Metal manufacturer (indebted to Archie for giving me the opportunity to achieve ISO 14001 & BSC Environmental Diploma), Hotel & Conferencing, and a Potato Processing Plant (this years VIBES Regional & National environmental award winner - thanks to both Colin & Ronnie who gave me the opportunity to set up the stall) - and now into my current role, my first Senior Management post (with a salary nearly triple from what I earned 10 years ago, an excellent benefits package and a car to boot) All in, I think I made the right choice in the first place PS keep meaning to attain at least Diploma level to attain corporate membership of IOSH - still trying to find the time to do it.
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#55 Posted : 25 December 2005 15:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Robertson-Böber After studying Classics it occurred to me that there was no real career in having a succinct knowledge of Latin prose praising the virtues of bestiality. Therefore I set out in my first job to re-train myself in H&S. How this happened I cannot be entirely sure. I suppose it was something I recognized as a void within the standard ops the public venue I worked in and the realization that what needed to be implemented wasn't all that diff. Over the years I expanded on this knowledge base, undertaking both didactic and non-didactic forms of training, before settling into a full-time career in H&S. What particular interested me to it was the specialist fields, the more one studies something from a general premise then the more one find specifics fields of interest. In my own case this has taken me into the study of infectious diseases, more precisely zoonoses. AJRB CMIOSH
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#56 Posted : 30 December 2005 12:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By John-Mark Like a good many other folks, I didn't originally intend to work in H&S. I was a TU safety rep for a number of years and decided to change direction on my career path. Ended up as a Technical Officer in Environmental Health, dealing with Occ H&S in commercial premises. Not sure where it will lead next....
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#57 Posted : 31 December 2005 17:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By phillip baker Having worked as a site operative and being told you cant! it`s not legally, and all the other phrases people use who dont undestand good practice or current legislation, i decided to enroll on the road to NEBOSH and have not looked back. Now currently working as a site safety advisor for the same organisation providing the correct advice and guidance.
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#58 Posted : 15 February 2006 11:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philby' I know this is late, and I didn't comment at the time because its boring....but.... the real reason is that I just drifted into it by default as being in the right place at the right time.... I now feel that it was the wrong place at the wrong time! Philby'
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#59 Posted : 15 February 2006 14:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Glyn Atkinson From apprenticeship days in 1970 onwards, working for a major fertilizer factory at Immingham, in Lincolnshire, the watchword was always - work safely, this plant can bite you! Wear your PPE at all times - it becomes second nature then. Coming out of my time - Flixborough happened- thirty miles away, and the shock wave hit a huge shop window and deflected nearly nine inches in the centre before shattering, luckily no one was anywhere near it ! Then , years of contracting at various firms, years of working to BS and ISO standards, calibrating instrumentation, and working in intrinsically safe environments on explosion proof zoned equipment. Then, one day - the 60 watt light bulb lit up, in the shape of John Gilbertson of Key, Health and Safety. Safety information to a fledgling workshop safety representative in a clear, concise, understandable manner and like the Christians who discover God in a flash.... I was bitten by the bug to learn more.... and to try to become someone working in a similar style. Cast off those overalls before you're 45 and go for the safety career - you're not stupid, just need the rest of a practical education in certain areas to enhance your current knowledge! Less than seven years and several safety courses and exams later, here I am at Chartered status, amongst the professionals, letters behind my name, proud of my achievements, and earning far more than in a dead end trade job... actually valued for what I produce each day, and on first name terms with the local HSE inspector, working with, not fighting against them, hopefully to make the right decision or choice to prevent accidents or incidents, but knowing that help in many technical forms is to hand for situations where I am not the "know it all ". Am I still learning?.... of course, because health and safety is brilliant in theory until people are introduced into the equation. The degree with no experience of working life and reactions of the working populace is an empty qualification , in my very humble opinion. You need to equate problems with viable solutions to try and save that director's pound, and enhance a safe working environment for the shop floor. That's where the "life experience" comes into practical play and ideas from previous employments can be used or doctored to suit the present situation to resolve your current problem. Your past helps the present and shapes your future, use all experiences and move forward, learning more as you go!
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#60 Posted : 20 February 2006 10:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Joe Quinn My company was a defence contractor back in 1987 and was asked to provide a safety person as an addition to the contract. My, then, boss was considering offering the role to a colleague - I considered his choice of person would be a mistake so I volunteered. Since then I haven't looked back and am now CMIOSH and still enjoying the challenges.
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#61 Posted : 22 February 2006 08:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sarah Darlington I returned to work part time after having children doing project work. The company was sold at an American firm who carried out SHE surveys. When the results came in I was asked to review and fix!! Requested training from the company and did my NEBOSH Certificate, then NEBOSH Dip 1. 11 years later worked in a variety of industries and eventually found a firm to fund the rest of my qualification, which of course is now NEBOSH Level 6. Enjoy the variety in the role but sometimes find it frustating... Sarah
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#62 Posted : 23 February 2006 16:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuey 24 years man and boy stapped to the mast. Life in a warship is extremely hazardous with fuel, ammunition (ahem! of different sorts!), being an engine room type, lots of noise, fumes, not to mention "Water" at 550psi and 240 deg (superheated steam) and more water around you than the mind can comfortably imagine. Later in carreer, having to maintain the same engines that powered Concorde. It sort of leads you to keep thinking, what if that......? So naturally conditioned to think safely. Left (pensioned), did nat cert. worked as a multi fuel burner/controls commissioning engineer in the petro-chem and food world, BOC (Liquid gasses) which all gave me a sound insight into how the big boys manage H&S and then worked for a Training/Consultancy Organisation, got my construction cert and then Dip2. and moved into a national construction firm and realised that this is not a job but rather a VOCATION. Now Chartered and part of the H&S management team pushing behavioural safety and strategy. Hope to go further and get some good enviro. quals. Never looked back cos I know I can make a difference!
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#63 Posted : 23 February 2006 18:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By AMJAD AL ATA Hi Anne, My good destiny led me to this profession. I graduated in 1999 as electrical engineer, worked (3 years) in country (home) where the Health & safety = big zero, after that i travlled to UAE looking for good future, i entered UAE on 2002 (vist visa/3 months) looking for electrical engineering related job, my visa finished & i did not rturned home, after other 4 unlegal stay in UAE someone call me for interview (start point) the position was safety engineer, i fialed then they offered me a safety inspector position with low grade & poor pay, I accepted. In 2004 i get a crtified industrial hygiene manager certificate (US/Distance learning), now doing NEBOSH Cert (Next March Exam) (Distance learning). I think & i am sure that there is no profession that will satisfy my needs as this one (H&S). My Road Map (six years): 1- Certified fire protection specialist (NFPA) 2- NEBOSH Dip. Level 6. 3- MSc in OHS (UK). isn't it the good fate? Regards Amjad
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#64 Posted : 23 February 2006 20:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp Due to a TU branch vacancy, I was asked by a colleague if I was interested in standing for the h&s position. I thought why not? However, when it came to the crunch he did note vote for me - but I still won the vote! Initially I enjoyed the learning curve. Later, I thought I could make a difference, fed up that I was with apathetic managers, bull**** and excuses. So I decided to make a career of it and gained my MSc in Health and Safety Management whilst still a train driver. Now I am a professional practitioner. Nothing much has changed...the same bull**** - just different people. But at least I now get paid to listen to it! Regards Ray
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#65 Posted : 24 February 2006 10:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By colin I was a self-employed subbie, Nullifire applicator and site foreman/painter, While I was recovering from a back operation, I happened to stumble on a website chat-forum called health and safety for beginners, had a read through the site and got interested in the subject. I self-funded the Nebosh gen cert and C&G 7302 teaching cert, became a moderator on HSFB and I'm now looking for my first health and safety job and hopefully start a level 6 H+S qualification. It's a fascinating subject and I know from personal experience how an injury at work affects not only yourself but your family. mentally, physically and financially. Colin
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