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Posted By Elizabeth Lithgow
What should I be looking at as a follow-on for the TUC Certificate in Health and Safety?
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler
What do you want? Do you want to be a Union Rep or do you want to be a full time safety person?
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Posted By Elizabeth Lithgow
I'm currently a safety rep but want to move into full time health and safety
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Posted By Jason Wiggins
Hi Elizabeth,
I like you completed my TUC Certificate 2 years ago now, and was told to look towards a NEBOSH National Diploma (Formerly known as Level 4)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler
Elizaberth.
Employers are scared of employing the following types of safety advisors:
Disabled, persons with ongoing medical conditions, Unioun Reps, nobody will be able to prove it.
I would sit down, see how much each course costs, how long it will take, what you get out of it in the end.
You might be supprised with the outcome.
Regards
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Posted By Michael Nolan
Hi Elizabeth:
I went through the NVQ4 with it being the same sort of format; I’m still a union rep at the moment. Not quite sure whether to go full time union or go full time with a company?
Good Luck!
Michael Nolan (CMIOSH MIIRSM) AMICUS/GPM Sector Rep
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Posted By Elizabeth Lithgow
Jonathan,
You say employers are shy of staff reps wanting to enter full time H & S ? Why is that?
I became a staff rep because I was concerned about the number o f people injured or killed at work. The training available to me was TUC. I now want to be fully involved with H&S. Is there anything wrong with that?
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Elizabeth
No there is nothing wrong with your ambitions. I think Jonathan was merely highlighting some of the hurdles you might come across with regards to being a TU h&s rep. A good knowledge in your particular field coupled with bonified qualifications will go some way in overcoming any stigmas associated with being a TU h&s rep.
I am an ex TU h&s rep and followed my TU Cert with a MSc degree in h&s management and now work as a full-time h&s advisor. The route is not without problems in terms of cost, effort and disappointments, but I hung in there and now I am learning my 'new trade.'
Good luck with your aspirations.
Regards
Ray
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Posted By Chris Huckle
Hi Elizabeth
My interest in safety started as a TU safety rep. I was then offered to move to safety for a large part of my duties, I took this step a little reluctantly as I did not feel that I had enough knowledge, I said that I would not take on the role without additional training. I was told to go and find out about what courses there were available and what would be appropriate. I decided to go straight for the Dip 1 and then for the Dip 2 and have just achieved CMIOSH. It was hard work but well worth it, as the job has developed it has really led to a great deal more job satisfaction than I previously had (before moving to H&S).
So please do not be put off as you have come from the TU side, decide what you think is appropriate and go for it.
All the best for your future.
Regards
Chris Huckle
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Posted By ITK
Elizabeth, I started my H&S career as a TU Rep, good luck, you will get there in the end!
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Posted By Brian Kane
Hi Elizabeth, I too am a union rep trying to make my way in H/S. I have the same problem in deciding which qualification to go for after the TUC cert. I have also posted a thread on the subject but I believe that NVQ4 will be the route for me as it follows the same format of study that I am used to. That is, until someone tells me otherwise.
Good luck in what ever route you take.
Brian
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Posted By Adrian Clifton
Elizabeth.
Over 24 years ago I was elected as a Safety Rep. Like you I completed the TUC Certificate course. Within a year of that I started a Safety, Health and Environmental (SHE) Management Diploma at a Local University in Nottingham (Nottingham Trent University). My Union helped to fund this as my employer did not want to know. The course was part-time (day release). I continued as a Safety Rep for a further 2 years+ (18 years in total) before moving into full time H&S. I am now a Health and Safety Adviser in Local Government.
My advice to you is; try the same route as me. The cost of a University Diploma is much less than the NEBOSH route. It does take time, but if you can achieve what you desire this way, then it will be well worth the effort.
Good luck to you which ever route you choose.
Adrian Clifton MIOSH
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Posted By Julian R Davis
Hi Elizabeth
I came into H&S through being a TU rep that took on the H&S rep as well. I worked my way up to the TUC certificate (NVQ3) and became a lay member of the union National Exec Committee for H&S. I was lucky in that I was then allowed to operate in my company like an assistant H&S officer and that allowed me to take an NVQ level 4 whilst working which gained me entry into MIOSH and a full time H&S job; I still work as a humble H&S rep as well, helping younger reps get started. If your heart is set on going along this route then best wishes - it's a decision I haven't regretted. The new structure means that if you follow the academic route you will need to do a portfolio to prove your practical competence; if you follow the NVQ route you will need to sit a test to show you understand the legislation etc. Try checking out whether your union and local authority supports Modern Apprenticeships - and go for the NVQ 4 H&S one (I am also a Union Learning Rep)- speak to your union learning reps and see what they can find for you.
Julian Davis MIOSH, Prospect Union Learning Rep and Union H&S Rep
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