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#1 Posted : 05 December 2005 13:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gary Maher This is my first posting here so my appologies if it has been covered many times before. I am 38 and will be starting the NEBOSH certificate course next week. I have had H&S resposibilities both as a Telecomms planning engineer and Manager and as this was an area I really enjoyed I have decided to dedicate the rest of my career to this field. I am after any advice on starting out. I understand I am going to be starting in a junior position and I have a rough 5 year plan on where I want to go. I am applying for affiliate membership of IOSH and will be registering with my local IOSH branch in the South East. As I am currently winding up my own business I am looking for a position as soon as possible so any advice on how to go about this would be much appreciated. I would also appreciate any info on good Recruitment Agencies in the South East. Many Thanks Gary
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#2 Posted : 05 December 2005 19:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Linda Crossland-Clarke Hi Living up north I can't recommend any agencies down south. However, from the tax side of things, maybe you should get your H&S training paid for before you wind up your own business. Also, check out for any funding via the RDA's. Regards. Linda. SHE Knows.
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#3 Posted : 06 December 2005 20:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gary Maher Thanks Linda and to the other 3 that have contacted me via email. Unfortunately, I have just about wound up the company so I cannot claim anything back. The fee's for the NEBOSH Certificate arent too bad so funding it myself was not a problem considering I am expecting to spend the rest of my career within the H&S Field. Just as an add on to my original questions, is there anything else I should be seeking to do, apart from applying to IOSH for membership and contacting my local IOSH branch.. I really dont want to miss a trick so if anyone can point me, and anyone else for that matter, in the right direction it would be very much appreciated. I am also in a bit of a quandry with my previous H&S responsibilities. Although I enjoyed those responsibilities, hence the reason I want to do it full time, I didnt document exactly what they were. Will this impede me in any way? All told I held H&S responsibilities for 8 years and, although not the major part of my work, did play a significant role. Thanks again.. Gary
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#4 Posted : 07 December 2005 11:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Bircham Gary, Welcome to IOSH! To address your Qu. re Recruitment Agencies, the major players will be found in SHP, the Magazine you’ll get on a regular basis thru the door once you join, alternatively look at the website (follow the links on the left of the page as you read this!) Re your future career, you’re probably better off getting into a larger firm if you can. These generally have a diverse range of areas in which OSH plays a part (or should do). Play up the fact that you have experience (the cert course will jog your memory as to your previous responsibilities), plus that fact that your have the determination, etc to self fund will be seen as a big plus with HR Professionals found in larger firms. When looking for a company, two things spring to mind. Firstly, a highly regulated industry (rail / air / petrochem etc) will be more inclined to support further development simply because they come under more scrutiny on a regular basis. The problem with these industries is getting in the door without experience, so maybe consider a non H&S role just to get in and gain experience, of the industry, also gives you an advantage when the opening does come up in your firm as internal applicants (assuming they’ve done a good job) get the chance to speak to those involved. Secondly, look for a firm that proudly displays its IIP (Investors In People) badge as again these generally have internal mechanisms to support development. Hope it helps. R Bill
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#5 Posted : 08 December 2005 12:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gary Maher I have been invited to an assessment for a Supervisory role with the Highways agency. It states in the information regarding the position that it is a Safety Critical role as it will involve working on the Motorway network. Part of the role is also stated as:_ "Take responsibility for the Welfare, Health and Safety of the Team. Providing emotional support during and after major incidents as well as managing sickness and other absence in line with Highways Agency policy. Adherence to Health and Safety legislation and ensure Briefing and Debriefing takes place as required." Do you think this would be a good role to get into to enhance my Health and Safety career, bearing in mind I am just starting out. If I was offered the position I would look to take on more H&S responsibilites if available. Your views on this would be great especially anyone who has worked or is working for the Highways Agency. Thanks again.. Gary
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#6 Posted : 08 December 2005 12:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Carrick Gary, Welcome! Bearing in mind Bill's comments about large organisations, etc., you would appear to be moving in the right direction with your choice of the Highways Agency. My advice (for what its worth) is to be persistent - stick at it and you'll ultimately achieve what you want, even if your first choice of employer doesn't work out. Also, keep logging onto the chat forum, as it can be very helpful in times of need and light relief in times of crisis! Jon
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#7 Posted : 08 December 2005 14:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Bircham Gary, Yes, the Highways Agency will be a great place to get into and there is a whole plethora of publications on the web (check the authenticity of the author) re safety for road workers. Just something for you to bear in mind, the HA contract out a great deal of work, billions of pounds every year. Is the position you’re up for actually working for them directly or one of the contractors? Long term, it should not make much difference once you get the experience under your belt as you’ll nearly always be in demand, but most of these contractors are not limited to the world of highways and may be able to offer a larger number of directions for you to move in. The down side of the contractor may be a little less security than you would find in the public sector, but given your current position, I wouldn’t factor that in too much. R Bill
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#8 Posted : 08 December 2005 17:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gary Maher Thanks for the comments. The position is actually with the Highways Agency and not contractors although I have had another invite today to have a chat with a large contracting firm next week. Fingers crossed that I will get an offer from one or both and get my foot firmly on the H&S ladder. I would just like to add as well that the comments and response I have had to my posting, both in this thread and via email, has given me added confirmation that deciding to change careers to H&S is the right choice for me. And although I have only just barely scraped the surface I feel that there is a great community spirit in here and I am sure it will be the same in the non-cyber world. It has certainly given me a lift when I needed it most and so anyone else who is in the same boat as me, take heart that there are loads of people out there willing to help and offer advice. But, as I read in another thread from someone who has been in the H&S industry for a long time, the best bit of advice they received was something like "if you dont know, ask". Thanks and kind regards.... Gary
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#9 Posted : 08 December 2005 17:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Granger Gary - what about the telecomms business? If you have background knowleged in this area it will be invaluable when combined with the safey side of things. Suggest you also get to look at and contact the Telecomms Specialist Group to see if there are any openings for you. Not my field but it may be worth an investigaton. Steve
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