Posted By Homer No offence but you are asking an awful lot for the salary on offer. Try adding another 10k

Posted By Paul Bellis But they are only looking for a tech SP not a professionally qualified safety advisor!! (hence the pay)- ok got my bullet proof jacket and helmet on wait for the replies!

Posted By MMM My mistake the last word on the 2nd line. Sorry for any confusion, Regards, MMM

Posted By Homer So it's not just me, the salary is low.

Posted By Homer I would not be so direct to suggest any salary is a joke and agree with your comments on two years experience as justified, however the level of expectation and responsibility is higher than I would expect for this kind of salary.

Posted By Keith E Usual story - companies want the experience/membership level but are not prepared to pay for it.

Posted By Descarte I think the salary range is very reasonable as it is obvioulsy an advisor position within a team and under a H+S manager

Posted By Andrew W Looks like I need to start looking elsewhere then. I do all the duties in that job plus more than some H+S managers do for £24.5k Know anybody that needs an advisor? Obviously I'm cheap, experienced, good looking, bald (shouldnt have mentioned that bit!!).

Posted By Keith E My point was that general business/industry is poorly paid when compared to some specialised industries. Anyway haven't got the job yet - just got my fingers crossed, but if I get it, I won't be returning to general industry - but going back to a previous industry.

Posted By ME I'm sorry but you do not get 25k for delivering pies in the North! Graduates start on a lot less then 25k but they have the ability to earn more over time and the job has far more interest than in delivering pies. There seem to be an enormous amount of people on this site who want to put down what other people earn and the jobs they do. I for one am getting a bit sick of reading this one upmanship that seems to be going on. This is a careers forum to help people get work and further their careers, not put down people with petty remarks about how much more they can earn and how the jobs on offer aren't paying nearly enough for them. If it wouldn't pay you enough then don't reply the job ads but don't put off other people who do want the chance to work by insulting the recruiters.

Posted By Kev S Hi all, I am Tech IOSH, currenty completing my NVQ level 4 to become Grad IOSH and ultimately CMIOSH, I earned £19,200! yep £19,200! this year. I live up north, I cant say I don't complain about my salary (well it does'nt even make salary status! it's Letuce) but I am currently fighting the fact that before I had these qualifications I had a job similar to delivering pies with my current employer. My employer is getting on a bit and he is very old school in his way's "I worked down the pit all my life breathed all sorts of muck in n theres nowt wrong wi me" you know the type of guy. He says he gave me the opportunity to get an education so that when he shuts the company down (three to five years due to his age 70's) I will have a career to go for. He will not pay me anymore money he say's,"don't price your self out of a job be loyal to the cause". The employees I look after earn 3000 to 5000 more than me per year, they are general labourers. I am in my 40's and have worked for my employer for 12 years. Should I stick with 'the cause!' or go after this type of position offered, albeit at 25K! sounds ok to me? any advice would be welcome. PS I work 54 to 60 hours a week and I have just got in after another long night!

Posted By Keith E Kev S and Carrie - in my opinion you've both been taken for a ride. When I first started in safety, 10yrs ago, I was on £19k even then + car. That was with the General Certificate. Now I'm on the upper end of an average safety salary ok mid-£30ks, I see it as a normal salary range for my age/experience etc. That is not to say I am boasting, as others have hinted at - I just see it as normal. As you say - loyalty doesn't pay the bills..... Guess this thread has once again been hijacked, into one about pay, so guess it will get locked down by the moderators soon. As for me, I'm just hoping I get the £32/hr job I mentioned earlier - then I won't be returning to the world of general business/industrial safety. As with previous threads about salaries etc - money is not everything, but it is a large factor. Without sufficient, life can be pretty dull..

Posted By Jeffrey Watt Folks I was gerning one day at the amount of tax I was paying when I realised it was the same amount as my wage 8yrs previously when I worked in a lab( God I still hate the taste of lipstick, bloomin won't test on animals do gooders, D'oh). General advice to anyone who wants to listen, keep moving. New employer with more responsibility is the only way I could increase my wage, each time you get more experience and can reinvent yourself, your CV gets breadth and you gain depth. Money is not a motivator, lack of money definitely is. Or if you are still annoyed the author of the Dilbert cartoons Scott Adams cites a solution in his book "The Joy of Work" in which you go for a "stealth raise" when your boss won't give you any more money. A stealth raise involves doing less for the same money, spending more time talking to your colleagues, taking longer lunch breaks and not getting stressed by deadlines. This however can be taken too far and involve rapid onset of P45ism. So be careful. The universe is all about balance, I think entropy ensues and the employer ends up getting out what they put in ( including the boot in some instances). Here endeth the lesson. Jeff (Yes I am this pompous in real life too)

Posted By Jeffrey Watt Cheers Alan That has cheered me right up LOL! Jeff