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Posted By alice clark I am currently working as a Health & Safety Coordinator within the food industry but am not happy in this industry. I have done my NEBOSH General and am looking to do my Diploma next year. I would like to join a company who need a trainer to deliver their courses either full or part time. I am also interested in consulting companies. Please email me with details or suggestions. alice-clark@hotmail.co.ukMany thanks Alice Clark
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Posted By Jim Walker
Are you same person who about 3 weeks ago was celebrating getting a decent H&S job?
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Posted By mark limon
Sorry your new job isnt working out Alice.
When I contacted IOSH they told me I was qualified to present up to the managing safety course.
This is because of the experience I already had in presentations.Do you have any??
Im techIOSH with manual handling trainer qualifications.
I guess its all about going down the same route before as and getting someone to take a chance,good luck,
Mark
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Posted By Mrs P
Hi Alice,
There is an opportunity in my department, please e-mail me with your CV.
Thanks
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
Alice
Word to the wise, whilst it is difficult to get that first step into H&S, it is even worse if you jump ship regularly after short spells.
Employers want long term stability, not mercenaries who move from job to job!
Whilst your new role may not be working out, sometimes you have to grin and bear it, think of the experience you will be gaining - at least this will stand you in good stead for the future!
Regards
Alex
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Posted By Frank Hi Alice Try looking at this site, its dedicated to Health and Safety Training providers in different locations http://www.thetrainingwall.co.uk/put in your county and the type of training and it will list all the people in your area. I have found it useful in the past and at least then you know who the local training providers are and you can contact them directly to see if they have any possible positions. Hope this helps Good luck Frank
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Posted By Paul Patrick Gildernew
Hi Alice,
I have to agree with Alexanders comment on this one about staying in the role for a reasonable time- possibly 1 year before moving on; esp at the start of your career in HS; experience is often more important than qualifications as you can see in this forum with the no. of posters looking for an opportunity to start thier career.
Sometimes we all have to do things we don`t like but will be beneficial longer term
I got similar advice at the start of my career 7 years ago and I feel it has benefitted me.
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Posted By Jim Walker
I wouldn't consider a trainer whose cv did not demonstrate they had walked the walk.
Equally, CVs - any with lots of jobs without documented reasons for job change get filed in the round file in the corner of my office, after only a cursory glance.
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Posted By alice clark
Thank you for every one who has messaged me back with advice. I am the sort of person who doesn't like to be unhappy in a job and i don't see why i should send 8 hours a day doing some thing i'm not enjoying just for work experience. People always work so much better in jobs they like. I can understand where you guys are coming from but would you really want some one working for you who's heart just wasn't in it!?
Alice x
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
Alice
following your comments, it is true, however it depends on what you really want?
Do you want that break into H&S, and be prepared to accept the flak, the negatives, etc in the hope that the experience will be worthwhile?
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Do you be selective and wait for the right job to come along, being happy in the process?
The latter statement is probably wiser when you have a few years under your belt, as first timers may wait or even never get that chance to be as selective!
Catch 22!!!
I know what I would do......... grin & bear it, as it shows character & determination, then move onwards after 12 - 18months.
I have been there and done it, believe you me it was worth the hassle.
But it is your decision, and go with whatever your heart/head tells you.
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Posted By cara
Alice
I was in a similar position last year. I had been working for a small company as a H&S Assistant - the job wasn't great and the pay was very poor but I stuck at it and really did learn a lot - not just about H&S but also dealing with people who to put it nicely weren't very nice!
I stuck at it for 2 years and then this year started a new job in the NHS in risk management which I am thoroughly enjoying.
If you don't have much experience it will be difficult to find the job that you’re really after (believe me!), but I guess if you really are not happy then go for it - I know what it's like to be in a job that you are not happy in!
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Posted By Catman
Hi Alice
Sorry, but I am another supporter of the stick it out option.
My first position in the safety chair in a factory was horrible and I wanted to run away most days, but I now trade on that experience each time I meet a Director who is not fully invested in safety.
Just out of interest, from experience as an HR manager, a LOT of people have a real wobble within 2 months of starting a job, particularly where they are accountable for a distinct operation or function for the first time.
That said, only you know what is best. Good luck whatever happens.
Cheers
TW
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Posted By Dan Lee
Hi Alice,
Speaking as a recently retired national operations training manager for a large company, if you want to be treated seriously as an external application to a trainer position you need to make a move towards acquiring a training qualification. A City and Guild 7307/ 7302 would be a start.
Many people make the mistake of having a NEBOSH and thinking they can train. They can't. Instruction and training are two separate skills. Instruction requires subject matter knowledge/expertise and the courage to get up in front of a group of strangers. Training requires all of this plus acute people and facilitative skills to ensure that you provide the opportunities for people to learn the subject themselves.
I have lost count of the number of times that I have attended so-called H&S training courses and found myself bored to death as the instructor reads from a manual. This has acted as the spur for me to ensure that all the training courses that I either design or manage are facilitative - not instructional. Don't fall into the easy trap of becoming an instructor. If you are serious about training then get yourself on the C&G courses. Alternatively the CIPD or TAP at Coventry run some excellent trainer courses.
Regards
Dan
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Posted By Clare Gabriel
Alice
Please dont see training as an easy option. Many do. It is incredibley hard work. Developing courses for customers is tough - will you get paid for development time? What about reproducing materials - dont forget copyright!!!
You need to decide what sort of training you are going to do. Are you going to teach NEBOSH/IOSH accredited courses? - in which case you will need to fulfill the stringent requirements of both organisations to deliver their courses, and if you are going out on your own you will need to buy their licences to deliver - very expensive unless you know you have the work.
Also consider the amount of experience you have.
I have been training for over 10 years and as you are recently qualified you will have attended many courses. Ask yourself, what made those courses interesting? What turned me on? What made me fall asleep - then critically analyse yourself. Do you have the breadth of knowledge to impart to students - as its not just about regurgitating course overheads - experience and stories bring courses alive.
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