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#1 Posted : 27 November 2006 16:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker
I have in the past recruited several people via this site. I'm not an agency by the way, just work for a company who needs lots of high quality H&S staff. Now I can't advertise I have a regular "lurk" here to see what's on offer.

State your location.

Poor spelling and grammar suggests to me, a lack of care in your work.

Don't assume lots of H&S experience is always required, not long ago I recruited a "newbie" to H&S who had experience in construction.

Anyone else want to add a few tips?

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#2 Posted : 27 November 2006 16:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By mark limon
I put a posting on here recently.When I pasted it onto am email I was sending I spotted a number of errors I hadnt noticed before so I think Jim is spot on.


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#3 Posted : 27 November 2006 19:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By keith baglin
Dear Jim i have recently become affiliate member attached to Manchester branch attending when i can
. I hold NEBOSH Cert general 2002 and CIEH PROFESSIONAL TRAINERS CERT bur alas need practical experience. Iam currently security officer in a car-care products company in Bury. Iam looking for a support role in H and S putting together training material i already have 30 such packs covering topics such as manual handling and COSHH. Iam 57 but thinking i may have "missed the boat" anyone brave enough to give me a try i can be contacted on 01617052366 keith baglin
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#4 Posted : 29 November 2006 17:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By CW
Jim,

Would you mind casting your eye over my CV and giving me a little feed back?

You can mail me at email@squareball75.com and put IOSH in the subject bar, I will send it by return.

Regards,

Col
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#5 Posted : 01 December 2006 09:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Manny
Keith,

Jim says "Poor spelling and grammar suggests to me, a lack of care in your work".

Manny
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#6 Posted : 01 December 2006 11:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philby'
Jim,

spelling, even with a spell checker, is not a dyslexics forte....

try putting dont in...what are your options?
does a dyslexic pick the first, second, third or forth option...and I believe the only mistake is punctuation...so Gramma's out also

Agree with your other tips though....

Philby'
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#7 Posted : 01 December 2006 12:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker
Philby,

My son is dyslexic.
He has ways of getting round the problems you outlined.
He also has a 1st class Honours degree in Engineering (just bragging there!)

If 50 cvs hit my desk (as they do) and I whittle them down to two interviewees, unfortunately some very unfair yes/no criteria creep in.
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#8 Posted : 05 December 2006 14:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philby'
Jim,

your a hard task master...I too have a Hons degree achieved without declaring, also bragging, and have some systems for combating/alleviating the issue...problem is they don't always work and are not foolproof....even getting the missus to proofread...hopefully/usually I get the message across that I'm capable, competent and enthusiastic

Philby'
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#9 Posted : 05 December 2006 16:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh
I often note posts where people plead for an opening, saying things like "just give me a chance" or similar. This to me says "loser". I know it's hard but no one will give work in a professional environment to a plea like this.

Be confident, short and sharp and state what you can do (think "transferable skills"), what you have achieved, qualifications etc.

Don't reveal your age if you are getting on! Leave that till they bite. Likewise location - don't mention it unless it is relevant.

Get your CV up to scratch; if it is more than 3 (best - 2) pages it's too long winded. Seek professional advice.

Lastly whom would you employ? The person that has had a thousand experiences or the person that has had the same experience a thousand times?
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#10 Posted : 05 December 2006 17:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By JM82
Good advice above but must disagree with Gary H on one point.

Depending on the type of job you're applying for, many Clients prefer a comprehensive description of past employment. This to include, dates, locations, job titles and a list of job responsibilities.

It may be more than 2/3 pages but that's better than omitting important details. I'd also suggest altering your CV depending on what kind of position you are seeking, i.e. if it's one with a focus on QA then highlight your QA experience within your CV.

Cheers,

JM
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#11 Posted : 06 December 2006 09:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Young
Your CV should be no more than 2 pages long and it's really important to grab attention as soon as you can on page 1 by inserting a paragraph summary profile of your experiences. From my experience of reading CV's and on advice from other employers, if you don't grab attention within 20 seconds on your CV, you might not get past the first hurdle.
Be honest in what you say and know your CV well, you will be challenged on it. Don't lie about experience and qualifications and if you're asked to do a presentation don't worry about being nervous, it's natural and expected.
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#12 Posted : 06 December 2006 10:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By JM82
Someone with 20+ years of experience on multiple projects within various industries cannot usually (or successfully) fit their CV on 2 or less pages!

It's important for employers to understand your full capability.

This what my Clients have been telling me over the 30 years I've been in recruitment.
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#13 Posted : 06 December 2006 10:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh
I believe that you have to distinguish between a standard CV (which I would maintain has to be short and sharp, selling your transferable skills, your abilities and achievements), and the situation where a client asks for a DETAILED CV.
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#14 Posted : 06 December 2006 10:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lilian McCartney
be careful if employer on age and working it out from experience listed. New age laws in employment now in force.

You don't need to put your age/dob on your application now. Similar to first initial instead of full first name to prevent prospective employer 'guessing' your sex.

Lilian
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#15 Posted : 07 December 2006 16:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker
Lilian,

If sex, age or anything else needs hiding from a prospective employer; they are not really the sort of company I'd want to work for anyway
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#16 Posted : 11 December 2006 22:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lindsey
Jim,

I am from St Helens and willing to work in the North West or further.

If you wish to discuss I can forward details: Ford_L@blueyonder.co.uk

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#17 Posted : 12 December 2006 09:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Langham
Hi Jim,

I have had my CV re-written by a recruitment company and have been using it for 3 months.

I've had little luck in getting interviews and wondered if you would be kind enough to have a look over it and be very, VERY critical!

My e-mail address is langham.langham@virgin.net, if you would send me an e-mail I'll ensure my CV is sent to you.

Kind regards,

Andy Langham

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#18 Posted : 12 December 2006 13:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By peter gotch
Fully agree with Jim that typos in a CV are likely to be critically assessed by an employer - there are ways of getting round e.g. dyslexia, including the obvious one of getting someone else to proof read.

Regards, Peter
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#19 Posted : 12 December 2006 13:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By peter gotch
Hi Lilian.

In terms of Jim's comment about "unfair" Yes/No criteria, if all else was equal, I would not pick out the person who has given me an initial instead of first name on their CV, not because I would think they were hiding their sex, ethnic origin etc, but rather that I would think that they don't want to communicate on first name terms, and in this day and age, that would be a serious downside.

Regards, Peter
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#20 Posted : 12 December 2006 13:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lilian McCartney
Soory folks didn't mean to mislead you. I was trying to stop delays by cv's/forms being returned.

I was meaning that some companies don't accept these due to new discrimination regs and send them back wanting initials.
That's why some companies only accept their application forms which prompt things like initials instead of name.

I always thought it a bit strange that a form would ask for an initial and then the person would sign their full name - though they usually say something about signatures in the guidance box with these.

I was only advising of caution as some closing dates can be quite short and I wouldn't want anyone to miss their chance 'due to a technicality' as such.

Lilian
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#21 Posted : 12 December 2006 18:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Asha Harriott
Hi Jim,

Well i am an administrative assistant who started working for the HSSE Department on Jan 1st this year. (I work for BP and I'm not afraid to disclose that on here.) HSSE is my passion. I have just completed the Nebosh Certificate and I'm going after the Diploma come Jan 20th next year.

But let me tell you - I cannot wait to start work in the field which i do by the way but it is more administrative based and I'll say this -i am fed up. I need to start doing something else with my life very soon.

What advise can you offer in terms of what kind of work can the certificate level at least allow me to do as a transition and start into work that will add greater value to the field of HSSE?

Thank u much
J
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#22 Posted : 13 December 2006 04:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By William
I think if you are working in admin for BP and are looking to work offshore in a safety role then you would not really have much credibility with the offshore workforce if you have not worked offshore on the tools or in a engineering industry.

I myself have been working offshore steady for the last 2 years and i am only now beginning to get taken seriously by companies when applying for safety positions and i became qualified in 2000, although i am only 31.

My qualification is equivalent to the old nebosh diploma part 1/NVQ3 level, with a bit of environmental management thrown in. So i would say persevere, but getting started is the most difficult.
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#23 Posted : 13 December 2006 09:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brian Rudge
I don't think I'm breaching the Age Discrimination legislation in admitting my next career interview is likely to be with a pension advisor, but here is my take on job hunting as seen from both sides of the fence (desk).
1. The purpose of a CV is not to get you a job it's to get you an interview. You should redo the CV for every application. Read the advertisement and get as much information as you can on the job and the company; then emphasise what you can offer that matches the job specification.
2.In general a CV should be no more than 2 sides of A4. When you are selecting candidates for interview and you have a great pile of applications, a short CV that highlights the essential requirements in the job specification is much more likely to make it.
3. If you get an interview make sure you have prepared. What is the style of the organisation?- you will need to show you can fit in.
Most interviews will follow a pattern, including what you know about the company; why you want the job (wanting to get away from the job you are doing is not a good answer!). Watch out for 'tell us about yourself' - develop a 2 minute profile and then say 'that's very brief, are there any areas you would like me to expand on', if the interviewer has to stop you - it's too long.

Merry Christmas and happy hunting.

Brian
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#24 Posted : 13 December 2006 12:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By chris edwards
I live in Dorset I have a background in waste management. i have a C P C in road hulage(National) C O T C level 4 T N H S, NEBOSH Gen Cert and I will have completed my N V Q 4 OHS by Feb 2007 and I am looking for work contact me
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