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#1 Posted : 27 November 2006 17:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anders Molko
Hi, i recently just finished a BSc in Environemtnal Health in Ireland. The main areas covered were food hygiene, Public HEalth, Environmental science and HEalth and Safety.

I did 8 months placement at an EHO office. Here in Ireland the job of the EHO is enforcing Food hygiene legislation. This was the only aspect of my course that i wasnt crazy about, whereas i enjoyed both the environmental and health and safety side. Therefore after college I got a job as a health and safety co-ordinator, my role is basically the assistent to the health and safety manager and i carry out risk assesments, deal with safety incidents, carry out traing etc. Its a junior role but im gaining good experience into the way health and safety works.

Im now not sure what to do next. I think if i want to pursue a career in Health and safety i will have to further my education, i have been looking into doing an Msc in ENvironemtnal Health aand Safety or RIsk Managment.

WOuld companies look for people that have diplomas in safety health and welfare at work, NEBOSH etc or would my degree and masters but more desirable? I feel i would be much more educated after the masters, but dont want to do it if it counts for nothing and potential employers want that specific diploma and certs.

Can anyone give me advice on anything else, or your opionion as to what would be my best course of action to be health and safety professional? Is it a good career choice? Potential salaries look good :-)
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#2 Posted : 27 November 2006 20:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adrian Watson
send me an email.

Regards Adrian Watson
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#3 Posted : 28 November 2006 09:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By AHS
Anders


Try the SHP online and hsejobs.proboards92.com
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#4 Posted : 28 November 2006 09:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anders Molko
AHS its not actually a job im after, its some career advice and some pointers onto what direction I should go with my career and which path would be best to take in getting there!

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#5 Posted : 28 November 2006 10:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By AHS
Anders

Firstly you need to check that any degree you have is acceptable to IOSH for Graduate membership which it may not be as you took it in Ireland.

If its not then consider your options the NEBOSH diploma being one and probably the most well known.

Obviously I think it is an interesting career but to check the variety of jobs and renumeration you will need to have a look at recruitment type sites.

All the best.

Jerry

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#6 Posted : 28 November 2006 10:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anders Molko
Thanks AHS, i had a look and to become a member of iosh my environmental health degree is not recognised, so i will have to go on to do further study here in Ireland. The following courses are accepted by IOSH here in DUblin(were i want to do the course):

University College Dublin
Diploma in Safety, Health and Welfare at Work (p/t )

MAppSc in Safety, Health and Welfare at Work (f/t p/t )

BSc in Occupational Safety and Health (f/t )

DIT
MSc in Environmental Health Risk Management (f/t p/t

DBS
MBS/Graduate Diploma in Safety and Health at Work (p/t)

I would like to maybe do the Msc in ENv HEalth RIsk Manangment, as that will give me an Msc rather than a diploma. Has anybody doen any of these courses or can give recommendations?

Can anyone tell me which one would be the shortest/easiest at this time as well (just out of curiosity).

Thanks for any help

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#7 Posted : 28 November 2006 13:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Its interesting that and EHO who is trained to enforce H&S law cannot get recognised by IOSH!

As an ex EHO myself I did the Diploma straight after qualifying as I did not work in a LA and it became apparent very quickly that I did not have a scooby about H&S except how to enforce it, it is not the EHO job to tell you how to comply but to let you know you don't!

If you are intereset in the Private Sector do a qualification which get you CMIOSH and that can be NEBOSH, NVQ etc or you can venture into the private sector as an EHO Consultant etc
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#8 Posted : 28 November 2006 15:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anders Molko
hi Dave,

ye it is strange that IOSH dont recognise Environmental health even though they enforce the law. And i dont know but the UK, but in Ireland we do a lot of lectures in Health and safety Mgt, it comprises 6 hours a week over 4 years, so i reckon i have a fair grasp of the area. The EH irish course is quite different to the UK course, its known to be far better to :-)

Its strange that IOSH dont recognise it.

I think i will do the Msc in Environment, Health and Safety as this will leave my open to working in the environemtnal area in the future shall i want to change and with increasing evidence of the profession merging, i think its the correct idea. That Msc is also recognised by IOSH.

I feel that the NEBOSH may be a bit basic and cover things ive already learned? But if thats what is required in the industry, i may look into more.
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#9 Posted : 28 November 2006 16:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Trust me mate the NEBOSH certainly covers a lot more than the stuff you would get on an EH BSc, although management and law do come into it and this part should be a doddle.
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#10 Posted : 28 November 2006 17:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hazel Harvey
Anders,
Environmental Health degrees are accepted for Graduate Membership in the cognate route if you want to join IOSH. They are not specifically named in the IOSH literature as all are looked at individually.
Hazel Harvey
Director of Professional Affairs
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#11 Posted : 28 November 2006 17:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anders Molko
How does one go about following this cognate route?

NEBOSH isnt really an option for me, as I live and work in Ireland it would have to be a course in Dublin, as other commitments mean i cant move to ENgland for the time being.

After doing some research i think the best option for me is the post graduate diploma in Safety health and welfare at work in DCU. This course is also recognised with IOSH and can be carried out part time so i can continue to work as a health and safety officer and gain experience while being educated.

Thoughts?
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#12 Posted : 29 November 2006 11:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hazel Harvey
Anders,
Have a look in 'About Membership' to the left of this screen, it tells you about the cognate route there.
If you are wanting to undertake further study the DCU Masters course is a good one as are the DIT and UCD ones in Dublin. All are accredited by IOSH and meet our normal membership requirements.
You may be interested in attending the local IOSH Branch meeting in Dublin the programme is in the 'Branches' section of this website. You don't have to be a member if you want to turn up just introduce yourself to the committee, you'll find they are very welcoming.
Hazel Harvey
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