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#1 Posted : 06 August 2007 11:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Carl Welland I am an experienced HSE Manager, I started my trade with Toyota in Derby 13 years ago. I wish to start my own business and i was wondering if any one else out there has some good advice on how to find work? I am looking for maybe contract work 1,2,3 days per week or even 3/6/mth contract at at time. I live in the Tamworth. Many thanks in advance. Carl Welland Dip Sm, TECH IOSH email:cwelland@ntlworld.com
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#2 Posted : 17 September 2007 10:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gerard Marr I started my own business and I can tell you it is not easy. To get work is hard. Remember consultancy is very different to advising. You need to get all your products set up and be ready to sell. The best way is to get a list of everything you can do and then turn what the Client requires into an action plan. If you would like to give me a call on 07770464987 I can give you tips or if you want to set up a branch with us no problems. Regards Gerry
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#3 Posted : 25 September 2007 17:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Daniel Carl: The motor industry is a good background for experience (me ex-British Leyland/Rover) but the critical thing is sources of contracts. One way in is to work as an associate for the larger consultancies - you get less money but they do give a regular workstream if you are good. You'll find there's lots of cheapo "H&S Consultants" out there competing with you and some can't be making anything if I am to believe their fees. If you do start up then do it only when you think you've got a viable workstream. Remember that if you find work, the contract value may be very low in relation to the work you put in to find it. Also - you must offer what people will actually PAY for, not what you think they ought to have. We're reaching a point where we are looking for some associate help but our problem is finding someone with some time to spare who can use a word processor and computer properly. These are just as important skills as CMIOSH, perhaps more so. Dave Daniel Technical Director Practical Risk Management Ltd David.Daniel@prmuk.co.uk
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#4 Posted : 26 September 2007 00:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By John A Wright Carl, I started up my business in April this year and maybe I've been lucky but I have five customers and always done at least 3 days a week. You need a website. Three of my customers found me that way. Also set up a google account and they'll put you on their map page, people will google safety and your town and you should pop up there. There are probably 30 industrial estates within a 5 miles radius of my house, I started listing names of the larger units, particularly one's who use FLTs and have drums of chemicals in their yard! Check those companies on the net for websites, if they have one then you might quickly get the manager(s) names and e-mails without ringing them up. Then you can ring them up and know who to ask for but I suggest just write nice informative letters; they at least might file the letter away till they have an accident! My main customer responded to my letter. I'm pretty cheap as I only have NEBOSH Cert. but I do have 30 years industrial experience. I visited Toyota Derby several times! Good luck. I'll post other tips when I think of them. John W
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#5 Posted : 26 September 2007 12:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By kaggs Good advice there from you John but how long did it take to get the breakthrough? Was it weeks or months and did they all contact you in response to your direct marketing? I assume that it would be small to medium size operations without an H&S Officer on board. Thanks
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#6 Posted : 26 September 2007 13:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By John A Wright Carl, I started creating the website in January, and also creating my own corporate documents, logo-headed papers for risk assessment, COSHH assessment, WAHR, LOLER, PUWER assessment, accident investigation, workplace inspections etc etc using ideas from previous employment, NEBOSH course etc. During April I toured round local industrial estates. I'm sole-trader so was just looking at small and medium units, and picking out those using chemicals and engineering as that's my background. Because of tax issues I had waited till April to launch the business proper, uploading the website and registering with google and various business registery sites, but because of holidays I didn't do that till the end of April. In May I started sending out letters and e-mails. Enquiries started coming in end of May. My main customer actually has a Safety Manager, not qualified, so their safety auditor required them to get some professional input into safety. Other customers were under pressure from insurance companies or from their own big customers to get fire assessments and risk assessments done and sought help. One customer is a small building/restoration company who need a safety rep to help with the site safety plan. (Things have gone quiet there since I told them to get an asbestos check done......). I'm in the Midlands too, and there does seem to be work for us out there, with businesses coming under pressure from insurance companies, local authorities, auditiors, and also if they doing work for big corporations they have to demonstrate effective safety and environmental policies etc. Once you get 'your feet in the door' you start making contacts. A fire trainer recommended me to one of his customers so I've quoted them for initial safety inspections. And a PVC window company recommended me to their glass supplier and I've done some work for them too. Two of the customers are just one day a month, but it all adds up. I am fortunate that the main customer has me for 3 days a week - that sort of contract is hard to come by. John W
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#7 Posted : 26 September 2007 18:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By John A Wright kaggs, Thank you and sorry, that last message was in response to yours (but is also more advice for Carl) :o) John W
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#8 Posted : 27 September 2007 21:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Carl Welland To every one who has sent me good tips and information on how to start up my own business, thank you very much, please keep them coming in, as any new ideas are much appreciated. Many thanks Carl Welland Dip Sm, TECH IOSH
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#9 Posted : 27 September 2007 22:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By John A Wright Hi Cark, Thanks. Another tip: build a good H&S library. Most of the regs themselves are downloadable off the net but the Approved Codes of Practice are my useful reference/study sources available from the HSE Books site, and the HSE site themselves are of course invaluable. I have only NEBOSH Cert. so the ACoPs are essential to me. You never know what a customer will ask you, and you never know when you'll meet an engineer who doesn't like safety consultants. Knowledge, and in some cases, just enough knowledge, can go a long way to winning the minds of engineers, but I expect you know that from your time at Burnaston! Good luck. John W
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#10 Posted : 30 September 2007 08:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian G Hutchings Carl I would also recommend accessing resources like Business Link. You should be able to arrange an initial advisory meeting with them. You can also register your business as a supplier. I have found networking and referrals on the back of existing clients to be invaluable in developing business. Good luck Ian
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