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Posted By Mostafa
I am looking into starting my diploma with RRC on the blended learning scheme. I am currently at university. I have been here for a month now and hate my course which is environmental managment.
The only reason i chose this course is because the h and s course was full.
I am 23 and have worked as a health and safety advisor for my company for 3 years. I was only doing the basics at my company like risk assessments, method statements, tool box talks etc.
My plan is to quit uni in the next week or so, enrol with RRC and find work in a health and safety role as i complete my diploma.
I am willing to pay forn the diploma myself. I will also be working part time for my old company doing risk assessments as and when they need them.
my question is that is it really worth it?
i have read many of threads on here were people are saying they can find work, employers are looking for certain types of qualifications which need to be gained by experience which they cant.
the jobs are not paid highly enough ?
is this all true, i would like as many people opinions on this please as this is going to be a big decision in my life.
Also what is the likelihood of me finding a employer which will take me on whilst i study, i already have my nebosh general.
Thank you for you time,
email: muspmc@hotmail.com
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Posted By Teresa Budworth
Oh dear. Reading your posting took me right back to my first year at Uni (on a health and safety degree course). There were a couple of times when I seriously thought about leaving as I found it very difficult to settle to the new environment. I was also convinced that everyone knew more than me, was smarter than me, etc, etc.
Obviously you have to do what's right for you. I found that I did settle down and really loved the course (well apart from chemical process safety) and the subject and I am still working in safety.
Leaving is a drastic step. There are other options in between sticking out your course if you do really dislike it and quitting. You could ask to transfer to a different course or even a different uni.
It will be easier to get a job with a degree level qualification than with a Certificate, and in my experience as a (previous) NEBOSH Course provider, most employers sponsoring staff through a Diploma do so on the basis that they are re-training an existing employee into a safety role. It is a big investment to make in a person who may then just leave and get another job. (I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but it can be reality)
Good luck whatever you decide to do.
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Posted By Mostafa
thank you for the reply,
im loving the uni life, loving the area etc, its just that i cant get my head around the work, for example i am doing a simple assignment today. Every one in my class has done this about a week ago and im sitting here struggling.
they have the advantage of doing geography as a level, where as I'm a mature student. I haven't studied in 6 years excluding my nebosh.
Health and safety is what i like.
i have tried to transfer to another uni but the course there is now full.
So would you recommend that i find a h and s job before committing myself to the diploma, stating that i wish to undertake it in January on my CV ?
Thank you
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Posted By Teresa Budworth
Mostafa, if you enrolled for a Diploma in the next few weeks you would need to spend a substantial period of time studying before being ready to sit the examinations. Realistically you would be looking at July for your first examination, Jan 09 for the next 2 and March 09 for submission of your Unit D assignment. Also bear in mind that it is set at level 6 which is the equivalent level to an honours degree.
I cannot advise you on what is the right choice for you to make. The fact I can provide is that you would find it difficult to find an employer to pay for your Diploma at this stage in your career.
You are concerned about the work at University and I can entirely sympathise with that; on my health and safety degrees there were people who went on to the course with science and maths A levels; they found the engineering aspects of the course a doddle, but may have struggled with the human factors side of the subject. There were others who went in with no formal qualifications as mature students, or who had done humanities A levels. They found different parts of the course easy.
What I found helped me, and has helped other Diploma students I have taught, is to; a) talk to the tutor. They are there to help you and if you're having difficulty they should be able to explain it to you, and b)talk to your fellow students. People often, when they're not confident, exaggerate how "simple" something was, so not everyone may have found it straightforward and if they really did, ask them to explain it to you.
As I said, I can't advise you - it has to be your choice, but it's very early in your course to decide that it isn't working for you.
All the best
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Posted By Rhianwen
Mostafa
Reading your posting reminded me of how I used to feel! I too am a mature student and am currently in the final year of a HSEM degree course. To be honest, I never thought that I'd make it through my first or second year but now that I've gotten this far, there's no way that I'm giving up!
What Teresa said was right-ask your tutors, that's what they're there for and the majority of them will be only too pleased to give you whatever help and assistance they can but unless you ask, there's not much that they can do to help you.
Have you approached your personal tutor as they should be your first port of call-mine has been absolutely brilliant and I wouldn't have gotten this far without the support that he gives me. Feel free to email me.
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Posted By Mostafa
Thank you for your replies and messages of encouragements, i am still not sure what to do, but will have a bit longer doing my current degree,
thank you
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Posted By Karen Todd
Could you stick at your environmental course and do your RRC diploma too, and become qualified in EHS? Lots of demand for EHS people, but if you really don't like the environmental side of things you can look for more safety focused roles.
I've done safety and EHS roles (and even had someone try to dump responsibility for training too onto me!), and I have to say I much prefer safety.
I found my engineering degree tough - most of it was so theoretical and boring, but I just focused on getting through it and coming out with a degree at the end. I don't know about your uni, but some unis let you do a year of a course and if you don't like it you can transfer to a different course the next year - is that an option?
Suggest you speak with the careers advisor at your uni and see what your options are.
KT
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