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#1 Posted : 03 April 2008 17:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By charlene armour
After completing both the Nebosh in Construction Certificate & Diploma what would be my next step to further my qualifications and increasing job prospects in the Construction industry??
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#2 Posted : 03 April 2008 18:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Michael P Gibbons
As somebody who has spent over 30 yrs in the construction industry 'on the tools', and is now a health and safety practitioner.
If you are not already working in construction, i would suggest when you gain a position, spend as much time as you can on the ground watching the various trades at work in order to understand what they do.
i recently had a discussion with a CDM-C who held CMIOSH status, who admitted he had never seen what it takes to carryout a core drilling process, how can he tell a person how to work in a safe manner, if he doesnt know what the process entails.
that's the problem with the construction industry, too many people who have read a book but haven't a clue about practical experience.
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#3 Posted : 03 April 2008 19:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tim
Charlene,

I know of someone who was on the tools for over 20 years who decided to take on a safety role and it has not been successful, many predicted it would.

There is no doubt that if you want to work in construction, you are going to be on a steep learning curve, it seems you have a decent set of qualifications, and if you are mentored, I feel that you can steadily build your knowledge and experience, but keeping a check on where you feel competent. Not all construction jobs are involved in building terminal 5 etc

There are many excellent professionals with a construction background, and some that were never on the tools as well.

What line of work have you been doing so far and where roughly are you located?
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#4 Posted : 03 April 2008 21:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richie H
Charlene & All,

So are we saying that to be able to ensure a safe working environment we have to been employed in that environment for the last 20 years or so? I agree, this would certainly be advantageous... however do we not possess transferable skills, are many of the basic principles of health and safety similar in most industries?

I am led to believe that the HSE have their inspectors exchange 'specialties' every number of years... so how are the enforcers competent to enforce in this variety of environments?

Without wanting to undermine H&S in the construction industry, surely if you have the skills and knowledge then much of these attributes can be utilised in most industries... all you then have to do is liaise / consult with the workforce to fill in the blanks... or am i missing something? General statement i know but hopefully made my point. Is not competence about understanding your limits?


Cheers

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#5 Posted : 03 April 2008 22:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tim
Richie,

The point I was making was that 20 years construction experience does not automatically make you a good construction safety practitioner, it is achievable with support and as you said keeping within the competence boundary.
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#6 Posted : 04 April 2008 05:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richie H
Tim,

Sorry was purely re-enforcing your argument, didn't intend to criticise your comments, totally the opposite, i wholeheartedly agree with them.

Cheers,
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#7 Posted : 04 April 2008 12:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Christopher Kelly
You could do an MSc in Safety Engineering, specialising in nuclear, rail or aerospace - offered by Lancaster Uni. or I know someone who has begun their PhD which they are enjoying.

Good luck
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