Posted By Carl West 18k

Posted By Paul Yes sorry should of added 7 Years experience

Posted By John A Wright Paul, you wrote: >>should of added 7 Years experience That should be 'should HAVE' Good literacy goes a long way in H&S, clearly written reports in good English. Sorry about that, just a pet hate of mine. The 'salary' you ask about depends on so many things. I was getting 35k before I 'retired', at a company site with 85 employees, 5 years in a safety role, but I was also the quality manager and travellled to the north and midlands, so you see it just depends on the employer and the job. John W

Posted By jason preston This is a question that can be so different depending on the role and location. I know a tech IOSH who earns 30K but has been in the role for a number of years but this really isn't a good guide. I reckon 25K is nearer the mark.

Posted By ITK The short response is the salary you should expect is whatever the employer is prepared to pay or not pay whichever the case may be. If pressed I would say £18K to £22K.

Posted By John A Wright Thanks Med. I see I pressed the l key three times.... There's a lot of difference between pressing a key once too often and a phraseology like 'should of' which is just pure chav :o)) Cheers, John W

Posted By Paul Thats exactly what happened I saw the answers coming in fast & then realised I missed an important fact. Paul

Posted By Sir Dobbin Good evening my learned colleagues, the contents of this 'Moot' are noted and I feel compelled to add my voice to this subject as I am also a 'Tech' grade with Health & Safety experience in the marine and manufacturing industry; both public and regrettably private sector. However, I have only started to formalise my experience and gain the academic qualifications required 'on the outside'. What has left a very bitter taste on the palate,if I might elucidate, I will be brief. The people I work for started me on a miserable existence of a salary, if you can call it that! However, they went on to say we will review your salary upon your success in your exams. Fine! So I delivered the goods and passed my General amongst other SHE exams, but when I did receive my so called review I was informed, yes - you have done a splendid job and after very careful consideration, we have reviewed your salary and, we believe you are on a very good package indeed. So I got the square route of zero by way of a salary uplift. I am now actively seeking other employment but when I get asked what I earn I am too embarrassed to disclose my true salary. I am paid 15k a year and have been since I joined the department. So I think I have benchmarked the bottom end of the market. As you may have gathered this issue is very emotive to me and I agree with the previous comment that the employer will try and get away with the least they can! I am left feeling absolutely worthless and totally demoralised. If nothing else, I hope I have made you feel a little better about your situation. You will find salary checkers on the majority of the Health and Safety Employment Agency web sites found in SHP magazine. The criteria you have to bear in mind would be geographical location of the role, the level of experience that the potential employer is looking for and the level of academic qualification demanded to mention but a few. Regards The Dobbin

Posted By teaboy it concerns me that, time and time again on this forum that people with a C or F in front of their iosh appear to believe that Tech means trainee or inexperienced, it could mean any number of things, as previously stated, i am Tech but have over 20 years experience in the construction sector as a senior lecturer in construction health and safety, consultant, company director and trainer (and that's without counting my trade background). The IOSH status appears to indicate to others that i'm a new boy, in reality it means that i am thinking very carefully about whether or not i wish to progress further in an organisation that comes across as very elitist with people paying more attention to shooting down other contributor's than actually trying to help them rant over donning stab vest

Posted By Exdeeps Mornin' If I may, both SB MCD and Teaboy actually have the same message - It's the experience that counts. Question is, experience of what? If you are new to safety and have no other experience to back it up then you will be paid accordingly. Experience in the world of work, relevant to the safety role and again, you will be paid accordingly. As an example, I have the Gen Cert but get paid around the average for a CMIOSH. Why? Simple, I used to be a hands on, plant operating, machine fixing, team leading, contract managing engineer. Then one day I did the managing safely course as a CV filler, realised it was really interesting so moved on to the Gen Cert. and on the back of that got a job as site safety guy. A (semi) planned progress from one career to another. Like I say, (relevant) experience counts Cheers, Jim

Posted By Pete Longworth Exdeeps, I agree to a certain extent that experience like yours counts but usually only if you are prepared to change employers or you work for a progressive company that values your contribution. I still maintain that, in general, employers will pay as little as they can get away with. If an individual is working for a poor salary, they would find it extremely difficult to convince an employer to increase that salary. If you want the money you have to be prepared to go out and look for it.

Posted By Foamfollower I read with extreme interest some of the comments posted recently and have to agree that salaries normally reflect experience as this is really all that counts. There are some who will chase qualifications and they will sometimes be as useful as confetti if not backed up by "at the coal face" experience. The SAS is not respected by the job title, but what they are capable of undertaking and it is the same with health & safety professionals. However my biggest dismay is the exaggeration that some of our colleagues post. To try and suggest that they have multiple field experience and condemn their employers when they have little or no experience is appalling. Employers sometimes take a gamble on taking people on in roles in the hope of developing those individuals and it does not always achieve the desired effects. Sometimes these individuals sit back in these roles and act as "policemen" quoting legislation, however due to the lack of experience cannot utilise a meaningful hierarchy of control and contribute to solutions. As an earlier poster stated " you are only worth what you are worth".

Posted By Anthony Edwards Hi there, The Tech/Grad/C/F membership status will get you to interview (or not as the case maybe). Its then down to how you perform at the interview and the possible pushing of the boundaries to 'your worth' if they are really impressed with you they will pay you a reasonable salary. Nutty

Posted By mark limon I haven't been here for a while but nothing changes.I think its a shame but as usual these posts degenerate into pointless arguments. I know one or two people with diplomas who I wouldn't trust to risk assess window cleaning on a dolls house.There are also "salt of the earth" long term safety reps who haven't a clue what they are talking about and who's knowledge of the law is non existent. I was techIOSH and was considering a career change in 1 or 2 years after gaining my diploma. Quite frankly even with the diploma I couldn't afford the cut in salary. Except for the lucky few I think H/S is a labour of love. As for the rate for the job,well its usually in the advert. I dont blame anyone who has worked extremely hard for their qualifications being proud and showing them off,there is snobbery and inverted snobbery on here.

Posted By Guderian If you want to take the risks - try contracting. Salaries of £40/hr to £55/hr + are obtainable. Thats about £65-100k per yr.