Posted By ClaireL Or maybe I should say where are all the good jobs? Is is just restrictd to H&S jobs, because I am finding myself going from rubbish job to rubbish job? Either I find out the job isn't the one I was sold in the interview or the job ends up changing beyond what's tolerable? Surely there are some decent jobs out there but where are they? Am I the only one suffering this fate?

Posted By Lilian McCartney Hi Claire, Most jobs change when you get there it's difficult to pick up from interview exactly whats on offer, arm yourself with questions beforehand. If you're really unhappy and talks with your Manager can't help it will then depend on whether its bad enough to move on from. We all have bad days and really bad days but we all should have good days and feel we are doing something worthwhile. Sometimes its just good to have a rant and download to someone. As its a Friday and not wanting to be flippant about your post, this reminds me of a funny story i hope the mods let this go and this cheers you up a bit. An HR manager died and when she got to the pearly gates St Peter said that as her name wasn't down for heaven or hell she could have a choice but before making the choice she would spend 24 hours in each. So down to hell went the HR Manager and when she got there she was met by the hunkiest man, she was dressed in designer clothes, her mates were there and they were all partying and having loads of fun. 24 hours later she had to go up to heaven but found this quite boring - the peace and quiet, gentle music etc etc. After being there 24 hours St Peter asked her if she had decided, she said yes, I want to go to Hell. St Peters asked her to be sure and she said yes its great parties etc etc. So down to hell she went. When she got there, the handsome hunk had gone, her mates were in rags and were toiling away in great heat. She was met by the devil and she said what's happened, when I was hear before it was great fun. He replied that was the interview, now you've got the job! I hope this cheers you up a bit - and its also Friday so long lie tomorrow. Lilian

Posted By ClaireL Ian, I can't give you specific examples on open forum as I don't want to give away my identity. Generally though various different job experiences: bullying; lack of any work; on day one being told the job spec had changed; significant management (and therefore working conditions)changes; suddenly implementing complete control of my diary and tracking of my personal car; and the latest one is not being allowed to tell management of any work problems that need fixing as they consider that to be a slur on them and their business, such things should be kept to myself. I am quite well qualified and experienced. My expectations of jobs has become more realistic as I have got older and wiser. I just want to be treated with trust and repsect. I don't think that's too much to ask. Today is a grim day and I am contemplating leaving the field of health and safety for good.

Posted By Anthony Edwards Claire, I work as a consultant and there are many good days but also a fair few bad days due to managers who are reluctant to change. I try to use this as a challenge to show them the error of their ways and try to re-educate them, (not always successfully unfortunately) but for those who do come around it is rewarding feeling. You may wish to look at documenting the possible bullying and unfair treatment you feel you are getting just in case. Good luck, Nutty

Posted By CFT So Claire are you then a consultant as you have just stated? If so if not directly employed simply loose the client, or perhaps I have misunderstood the consulting reference? Your clearly down as it is what is written between the lines and not what you have actually said here (which I can understand) its the weekend, have some time off maybe even add a few days annual leave and try to reappraise your next move. CFT

Posted By Guderian I'm with Clare on this one, getting out of H&S sounds like a good option - can't wait until the kids are off my hands

Posted By Simon Walsh. Why are there so many rubbish jobs? In my view there are two reasons that come immediately to mind. 1. People are prepared to accept 'rubbish' jobs. 2. Some employers still do not recognise that health and safety professional are exactly that ... professionals.

Posted By ClaireL I think my qualifications and expereeince give me credibility for self-employment but apparently that's not enough, I need to have something different to offer. I don't. Jack of all trades, so to speak. I have a love-hate relationship with H&S to be honest. I belive in it in principle but think it goes too far at times and hate the compensation-culture we live in. I get on well with clients and gnerally get very positive fedback from them. as an employee I have been too loud-mouthed and opinionated in the past but over the years have learnt to seriously pull my head in. Nowadays I will either keep it to myself or mention something but then back way off when my comments /suggestions are ill-received. Trouble is that doesn't make me happy just putting up and shutting up. It just seems that so many senior managers are either power-mad and very insecure with it or treat their employees / consultants like untrustworthy schoolchildren.

Posted By Anthony Edwards Claire, Where are you based? Nutty