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#1 Posted : 22 July 2008 18:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By CW - No Post Nominals I am looking for a bit of guidance on the old salary front. 3 years experience in facilities/ general H&S + 1 year in construction. Not a member of anything but would be TechIOSH and an affiliate member of IIRSM and also just a few points off Maps. I have the applications filled out for IOSH and IIRSM and following discussions there will be no problem having these membership levels, well the next transfer for IOSH is 3 months away. I have the NCC & NGC, P402, PASMA, Scaffold Inspection (basic) MS and a few other bits and bats. I am also sitting the NFC in Sept and trying to decide whether to do the NVQ4 or the Diploma. I am up for a salary review and would like an idea of what I should be looking for. Based in Yorkshire but travel nationwide carrying out the duties of CDMC (my gaffer is the registered party) Site inspections, competency checks, asbestos surveying & report writing, looking after a few private clients, responsible for 100 static staff at HQ and up to 60 on various construction sites where I deliver toolbox talks, lots of other H&S tasks. I don’t want to post what I am on as I don’t want this to influence any answers. Any help very much appreciated. Cheers.
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#2 Posted : 23 July 2008 09:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Guderian £28-30k
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#3 Posted : 23 July 2008 11:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Carl West I agree with him ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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#4 Posted : 23 July 2008 12:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By steve e ashton It depends... It depends on your level of 'authority'. If your gaffer is the 'named individual' - does this mean you have to send everything through him for approval before it leaves your desk? It also depends on whether the company deems your level of qualification is essential for the discharge of your duties - just because you have the quals does not necessarily mean your employer sees them as being necessary - (they may be happy with a trainee on £14k). And on whether your 'private clients' are paying for a Rolls Royce or a clapped out Trabant.. And whether you are providing bespoke or 'off the shelf' solutions for them. And whether you are developing policy and procedure or just applying it.... And (perhaps most importantly) - what your employer is willing to pay... But in broad terms, I believe you should be looking around the £24-34 k mark. I know this is a broader range than offered above, because I do not feel it is possible to get 'one size fits all' answer to this type of question. If you are already on £35k or above, ask for a 'slightly better than cost of living increase' If you're only on £22k or below, ask for a substantial increase to reflect your worth to the business. Anywhere in between, you will have to use your judgement of what comparable people in your organisation are being paid at similar levels of responsibility ... Steve
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#5 Posted : 23 July 2008 13:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By CW - No Post Nominals Thanks for the replies above. Steve, I will crudely quote you with a few answers. “It depends on your level of 'authority'. If your gaffer is the 'named individual' - does this mean you have to send everything through him for approval before it leaves your desk?” I have quite a lot of authority and responsibility, I am competent enough not to be requested to put everything in front of the boss. “It also depends on whether the company deems your level of qualification is essential for the discharge of your duties” Yes they do. “just because you have the quals does not necessarily mean your employer sees them as being necessary - (they may be happy with a trainee on £14k).” They see them as being very necessary, a trainee would be unable to do my job. “And on whether your 'private clients' are paying for a Rolls Royce or a clapped out Trabant.. And whether you are providing bespoke or 'off the shelf' solutions for them.” Bespoke & RR “And whether you are developing policy and procedure or just applying it....” Developing and implementing. Cheers
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#6 Posted : 23 July 2008 13:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By steve e ashton OK - from your answers I would offer a guesstimate that you should be looking towards the top end of the range I suggested - perhaps in the £32-34k bracket. But again - it depends on what other professionals in your company are getting paid... and what your company is willing to pay! Steve
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#7 Posted : 23 July 2008 16:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Simon Shaw For what its worth, these are my thoughts.... Salaries differ so much from business to business so it is difficult to say. In my limited experience, people who stay employed with the same company for a long time tend to get paid less than someone who moves more regularly - I'm sure there are those who have experienced a new employee being brought in at a higher salary than themselves. On a positive note, you obviously have experience and are already doing the job so your employer must know how much he values you. On a more negative note, you are already doing the job so why should they give you a large salary increase (if that is what you're after). You do not have the NEBOSH Diploma (or equivalent) qualification. You also say that your gaffer is the registered party - does that mean that you are an assistant CDMC. So in reality salaries could be anything from £21K upwards.
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