Posted By Melanie Fellows In the past there have been some horrifyingly low salary expectation answers posted to questions of the same ilk. For a person with the cert, my opinion would be up to £30k, but depends on the size of the company, the sector it's in (and the job title). Mel

Posted By Melanie Fellows Sorry! From memory, some people were suggesting £12k - £15k, which I found disturbing (& luckily something I haven't experienced).

Posted By Guderian You work for less than £20k.... WOW I started on £19k, in my first h&s position back in 1996 (general h&s consultancy) As per my previous posts, why do people work for the Public Sector/LA's is beyond me. Work is not done for charity. I consider myself to be very lucky to have a salary well in excess of the industry standard - O & G recommended. Get the job applications out asap.

Posted By bigal01 with only a years work experience in a full H&S role would I be able to get something?? I have 4 years Facilities management experience aswel...

Posted By Melanie Fellows Whether you'd get something with less than a years experience depends on you and what you can offer the company you apply to. I went for a new role after less than a year, got the job and a £5k pay rise for my trouble, so it is possible. Didn't get a car with that one though - depends on the company and whether they require you to travel. If I were you I'd start looking around for a new job. Apply for the ones that take your eye (within reason), and don't let requests for certain qualifications stop you applying (half the time they don't even know what they are asking for!).

Posted By Melanie Fellows Depends on what industry you are chasing. Applying costs nothing - you don't have to take a job just because it's offered to you.

Posted By bigal01 how come there are so many jobs in the SHP each month asking for nat cert only and offer £25-28ish??

Posted By Melanie Fellows Having never looked in the job section in the SHP I couldn't tell you why, I'm only going on what I've been offered personally. As with every job, in every walk of life, it depends on you and what you can offer. And what a company is willing to pay. I have turned down several jobs after being offered it because the package wasn't right for me/ what I wanted. I've also applied (and got) jobs that asked for higher qualifications than I possess. Like I say, it all depends.

Posted By John Fraser Hi bigal01 Here is my opinion on what you should do : a)Stay with your current organisation and get the NEBOSH Cert and Preferably the diploma, getting to at least Grad Iosh status. If you have have to self fund the diploma - do it distance learning whilst at the same time you are gaining good h & s experience. Overall it might take about two years ( depending on how you do the diploma ). b) Once you have got the cert and diploma you will have a good deal more experience in rail h & s and thus a better position to get a better paid job. What others are saying about jumping at the first job offer as it offers better money etc in my opinion can be flawed- sometimes the grass is not greener in the other side. I was faced with the same situation as yourself, but I decided to be patient, get everything that I needed to take my career to the next step ( nebosh diploma / chartered membership / training quals / etc, and I am now in a reasonably paid h & s position. If I was you, I would hold fire right now until you get the basics, and then you will be ready to move on when something suitable turns up. At the end of the day there is a credit crunch right now, and it is affecting many industry sectors, thus creating intense competition for h & s jobs - you could find it difficult to get in somewhere. John

Posted By John Fraser Hi Guderian I was looking at the wrong thread, however it possible to self fund the nebosh diploma or get a career loan from somewhere. Nebosh dip costs about 2.5 K. In my experience you will get nowhere without minimum level 6 quals and a couple of years experience as competition from more highly qualified persons is always there when one is job hunting, due to the scarcity of h & s positions and that potential employers have a choice of candidates all wanting the same job. As I said earlier distance learning is a cheaper option, but well worthwhile in the end. I would stay get as much experience as I can, get qualified and then move when one is in a much stronger position in my opinion. John

Posted By John Fraser I would still do the NEBOSH Diploma or NVQ Level 4 rather than other forms education - everything one needs to know is in the nebosh diploma or one could prove their competence via the NVQ Level 4. Its what most employers look for unfortunately in the uk and abroad. Most people can get a loan or pay in installments over the tuition period if you have to self fund as with some training providers. John

Posted By Dar Hi I have recently decided to move jobs and in my opinion you need to take on board many factors. 1)salary 2)Car or allowance 3)Pension 4)Health care 5)Bonus And just as important 1)The company 2)What your role will be 3)Further training 4)Prospects So in my opinion its not all down wages its about the whole package Regards Ps. Would not do it for 20k mind he he PPS. NVQ4 can be completed for £800 at college

Posted By Edcolver Check out Greenyear thread.

Posted By davidlavery In response to the last post ITK, I must have been lucky getting the 28k post with only a NGC, NCC cant have been any Diploma holders interested eh? I bet they wish they had, the 5k a year pay rise starts in Jan 09. He with NGC who dares apply sometimes wins. Happy days