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Posted By GavinR
Hi,
I'm currently considering applying for a council H&S manager position but my current experience to date has been mostly in the manufacturing/engineering industry with a 1 year spell in Construction (CDM-C role). The council position is very interesting and would also be my first step into a managers role (although i believe this would only be my first experience of having this job title and not actually doing the job)should i be successful. Would anyone be able to advise on the main differences of working in council as supposed to industry and if the set up to managers role would possible when changing industry as well?
I've been looking for this progression for about a year now so would appreciate any advice guys.
Cheers
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Posted By John Fraser
Gavin
In my experience, health and safety is more appreciated in the Private Sector than Public Sector.i.e More Buy in from operations in the private sector / better attitude than public sector when one is administrating h & s advice.
Operations have a poor appreciation of health and safety in the public sector in my view, making h & s person's job a lot harder to convince them to change their ways.
Good Luck in your interview.
John
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Posted By Philby'
pay
restructuring every two minutes
expected to do everything
little or no admin support
pension rights diminishing
having no money IS an excuse for not doing anything, (you'll see)
ignorance IS a defence, see last statement
even if the authority employs H&S contractors/consultants, its still you in the dock
the press think your worse than private sector elf n safety
your own peers in private industry think your on to a good thing, when the reverse is true
I could go on, but its just bringing me back to the reality, cold sweats and shaking...feel free to email me directly
Philby'
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Posted By Karen Jackson
Hi Gavin,
I worked as a H & S Manager in the Construction industry for 8 years. I changed to the ALMO of our local council in Aug08.
Massive differences:
Changed to be part of a team; Team restructures and lack of funding in this financial year have meant that I am left with a trainee and a part time admin to cover 1000 employees, 20K properties,Tech Services, Elderly Services, Occ Health etc etc.
Lack of funding; you can identify issues until you are blue in the face, but they will only deal with critical issues due to lack of funding.
UNIONS; everything has to go for consultation, you cant just agree a policy and go ahead. I find our unions particularly obstructive instead of working together - however I am working on this.
Meetings; too many. Councils have meetings to discuss meetings - when do you get the work done?
After saying all this, the work is interesting and diverse if somewhat frustrating at times. If you like real hands-on? when most of the works to properties is refurbishment and go out to site expecting a full estate being tackled to find two properties scaffolded and 2 men working!!!!
By the way did I mention the training? You will probably be expected to create and deliver all the health and safety training as well!
Good Luck, I would go back to construction tomorrow.
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Posted By wee davy
been there mate got the T shirt - if you are going private to public then prepare for despair, very little appreciation of HS professionals role or remit and end up disillusioned and realise that you are getting nowhere. HS professional very low ranking in the overall LA picture. Sorry to be pessimist.
There used to be a pre - pre - meeting to decide what the agenda should be for the pre-meeting, have the actual meeting and conclude nothing can be done anyway - so lets schedule another meeting - aghhhh!!!!!!
D
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Posted By Guderian2
Worked for the NHS for a while - awful!
As stated by others, a thankless task providing a h&s service in the public sector.
Too much union consultation - meetings about meetings, policy documents doing endless rounds of consultation before being accepted etc etc
Would only ever consider working again in the public sector if very desperate for a job.
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