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#1 Posted : 27 January 2009 09:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Bannister With a background in fire surveying in the insurance industry plus current H&S qualifications & general competence plus ongoing CPD I have been confident in carrying out fire risk assessments in lowish risk premises. I was considering NEBOSH Fire Cert but see that this is designed for those wishing to undertake low-risk assessments and looking at the syllabus appears that I would gain little, other than the signed parchment (assuming a pass). My question therefore is: what is the recognised educational/training level required to be able to tackle higher fire-risk scenarios e.g. residential/chemical/high fire load warehousing etc?
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#2 Posted : 27 January 2009 10:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By SBH I deal with residential homes and found the NEBOSH certificate course very helpful SB
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#3 Posted : 27 January 2009 11:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh I teach the fire cert, there is quite a lot to it. I would recommend it. I think that experience counts for a lot - if you start assessing low risk premises and build up to higher risk, you will gain confidence and competence. By the way there is a quaint idea that many employers have that the best people to do fire RAs are ex firefighters. I believe that it ain't necessarily so. It depends on experience - putting out fires is not the same as managing fire safety. I get some students from the fire service who are top notch and could teach me things. I also get some from the same background whose knowledge of fire theory is very basic. Follow this link which might help http://www.ifsm.org.uk/
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#4 Posted : 29 January 2009 11:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By mlokier I'm just booking to do Module 2 of the Fire Manager course run by Vulcan Fire Training. It is a comprehensive course with presentations, practical and realistic exercises, free fire software and useful notes. I passed Module 1 without any concerns and have applied the principles successfully since doing it. Once completed this Institute of Fire Safety Managers (IFSM) Accredited Course allows me to apply for Technician grade with IFSM [subject to passing the exams and my application being approved of course]. It is also the British Fire Consortium recommended course for their Fire Risk Assessor Register. I had considered the NEBOSH Fire Cert but this is a more practical hands on course which I found effective both from sharing experiences and drawing on the considerable knowledge of the trainer who is ex Fire Brigade. I was also influenced by my Consultancy Director who wanted me to have a practical course better suiting me to taking on more complex premises such as factories, warehouses and multi level/complex buildings.
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#5 Posted : 29 January 2009 15:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By DPK David I agree with the other replies, do not dismiss the NEBOSH Fire Cert. I took the course and achieved the cert when it first came out, by then i had served with the Fire Authority for 18 years and found the cert excellent. I sat the course with several Fire Safety officers from other Fire Brigades and we all agreed it was a very worthwhile course. I appreciate it does say for low level risk competency, however armed with this Qualification and my other experience i have undertaken some reasonably complex FRA's, some of these assessments were then audited by the Fire Brigades and passed their scrutiny. This brings us back to the old sticking point of what is competent? I think you would be surprised with the level of good content with this course and highly recommend it. If you really think you have passed this level of knowledge then i would strongly suggest you speak to the Fire Services College at Morton on Marsh and they will be sable to advise you accordingly. Regards DPK
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#6 Posted : 30 January 2009 11:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Day There is a plethora of 'Fire Risk Assessor' training courses available from numerous organisations/commercial undertakings. Attendance on these course will provide a piece of paper but cannot provide a magical formula that allows a few days training to stand alone as a 'qualification'. Any course and subsequent examination will only provide the essential underpinning knowledge - the competence to carry out the task effectively will depend upon individual experience and upon other directly relevant qualifications. There is no 'quick fix' solution to becoming a competent fire risk assessor but having looked at much of the training available I suggest you may well find it worthwhile looking at the two part Fire Risk Assessor/Fire Safety Manager course run by Vulcan Fire Training - this is more comprehensive than many of the alternatives available - info@vulcanfiretraining.co.uk
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#7 Posted : 30 January 2009 11:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Bannister Thanks to all responders so far. I'm rather surprised at the low number of posts but welcome the opinions expressed. Keep 'em coming please.
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