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#1 Posted : 11 February 2009 20:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jane Lowe
As some of you may have seen I have been job hunting for some time and I just wondered if other people have found that the jobs advertised all seem to require manufacturing, construction, nuclear, engineering or related experience.

Are there members out there who work for low/lower risk companies for example call centres, retail, offices, hotels etc or does the above seem to be the norm.

I would be interested to know what industries people tend to work in as I feel that many of the industries I mentioned in the second part of my thread are under represented or these industries do not seem to have much of a health and safety function at all.

Thanks
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#2 Posted : 12 February 2009 11:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Jane

Many jobs do evolve around construction type work, this is probably due to the fact that there are more risks and legal impositions associated with this type of work eg CDM, LOLER, PUWER, MHO etc. That said, there are still duties to be performed in softer type industries. However, 'low risk' often equates to 'no risk' and I suspect that many office and retail type industries do not properly manage health and safety. Those that do manage their risks tend to have non-vocational people for the task, where a basic knowledge of health and safety is considered appropriate or engage a consultant when necessary.

I am generalising of course, and there are positions out there for people with softer skills who manage occupational health, well-being, DSE, fire and other office type hazards.

Ray
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#3 Posted : 12 February 2009 20:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alison Parker
Jane,

I am a group safety manager for a national retailer and I can assure that most “household names” are well represented with excellent safety teams.

Raymond,

To add clarity on your generalisation of retail type industries. They do manage safety and I don’t know of any head of safety in a national who is not CMIOSH and I know many.

Try not to think of the softer side of retail in your generalisation, remember the safety teams in major retailers will be heavily involved in CDM for instance. New builds and refresh projects many of which are carried out whilst they are still trading. Some retailers I know have construction safety managers.

Many retail safety managers (I am) with also be responsible for the safety management of the supply chain, which will include distribution centres and subsequently occupational road safety and fleet management. All of which include the application of the regulations you have referred to and indeed many more.

IOSH in fact has a retail and distribution group which is also well represented.
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#4 Posted : 13 February 2009 08:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Alison

No offence meant and I suspected that my post would draw some flak. Clearly, as you have indicated, many retailers implement health and safety properly and cover a wide range of health and safety issues. Whilst I was generalising, I should have added that it is largely SMEs who do not have adequate resources to provide a full safety management service. The larger outfits which you obviously work for were not really the focus of my posting and I should have made that clearer.

Ray
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