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Posted By Phill Galpin
My H&S career has been progressing reasonably well and I am currently studying for the NEBOSH Diploma. However I have now been 'reorganised' to cover Quality Management in addition to H&S. In principle I welcome the move, we are not a large company and so I have to be grateful that the reorganisation did not involve a door! That said apart from a basic appreciation of ISO9001, Quality management is a black art to me. Some of the information request and forms I have seen from customers look more than a little complicated, APQPs, PPAPs, FMEAs (at least I know what that one stands for) and so forth. Can anyone suggest some courses that would be beneficial, I'm thinking of something maybe equivalent to the IOSH Managing Safely or NEBOSH Certificate but obviously for Quality or may be even something more specialised?
Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
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Phill
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Posted By Suffolkman Take a look at the CQI website http://www.thecqi.org/Like you i got 'lumbered' with QA responsibilities a few years ago but came to really enjoy it and a lot of the techniques you learn will really strengthen your approach rot HSE It also helped me progress up the career ladder..and really broadened my understanding of the business I just never got time to take QA Qualifications except for Auditor & Six Sigma Good luck
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Posted By Phill Galpin
Thanks for the help, most useful website.
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Phill
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Posted By mivys
Hi Phil, there is a City and Guilds Quality Assurance course (i did this a number of years ago and was a great introduction), the CQI (former IQA) also do either a certificate or diploma in Quality. BSI do a Certificate in quality management. Another good course would be a lead auditor ISO9001:2000 (2008) course (5 days and gives a good overview of ISO9000... Hope this helps...
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Posted By peter gotch 1
Hi Phil
You might benefit from attending a course accredited by the International Register of Certificated Auditors - google IRCA.
Regards, Peter
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Posted By GaryC40
Phil,
u dont need to go on a course, 9001 is easy, dont worry about about.
Gary
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Posted By Suffolkman
Gary
No offence but you could say the same about Safety and Environment 18001 & 14001 are 'easy',but a short course does help you get up to speed quicker and certainly improves confidence ..... though I would agree its not vital
Personally when i first got involved in Quality i found the internal auditors course I did which included the basics of ISO 9001 invaluable especially when trying to fix a QMS that had been allowed to deteriorate and where the certificate was under threat.
Later i worked as six sigma black belt..... try that without training!!... the amount of training anyone needs will always depend on whats being asked of them, the complrexity of the business theri in and their background knowledge... and how interested they are
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Posted By GaryC40
Apologies it was very late when i posted that and was probably a a bit grouchy! What i should have said is that i do not believe it is absolutely nececessary go on a course for quality management. I cannot think of how a course could even be constructed to suit. My experience is that all systems are different to suit the business, this is why the standards are so broad. Yes, by all means book yourself on a internal auditor course and even lead auditor thereafter, these will give you confidence to manage/operate the audit programme of your system. Competent auditing will teach you everything you need to know about your system, if you have the time, read up historic audit reports internal and external, these will indicate your systems weaknesses and strengths.
Hope that was a better response !
Gary
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Posted By Suffolkman
Spot on!!
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Posted By Phill Galpin
Thanks to you all for the responses I have to see exactly what they have in mind for me but the Lead Auditor course is probably where I'll start.
thanks again
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Phill
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