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#1 Posted : 05 June 2009 09:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By bobjones
Hi all,

I was just wondering what experiences people in this forum had of working in University Safety teams - and where their careers went after that... Once you work in a univeristy are you pigeon holed, etc...

There are a few uni jobs out there at the moment which I am thinking of applying for...

Thanks in advance
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#2 Posted : 05 June 2009 10:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuff4blokes
I think that life as a safety adviser in a university will expose one to as large a variety of risk scenarios as virtually any other environment, particularly in the sciences, physical activity, maintenance and engineering departments, added to which is the inbuilt resistance of academics to believe that anyone else can tell them anything (takes cover) and that they are immune to danger.

That experience will surely provide a whole host of transferable skills that would be valued by an enlightened employer.
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#3 Posted : 05 June 2009 11:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Flic
Stuff4blokes is right; in a University that has the full range of research activities the mixture of hazards present is extremely broad.

Academics are usually very nice people, but you have to realise that what drives them is different from the drivers in a commercial organisation. Thus when you want to intervene you have to take a totally different approach. The management structure that you may be used to in a commercial organisation may be totally absent.

24/7 working 365 days a year is normal in some university work environments, bringing a fresh set of challenges. They also often have active outreach programmes so large numbers of members of the public have to be catered for at times.

As to life after University - I cannot comment as it will take me to retirement.

Flic
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#4 Posted : 09 June 2009 09:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By James Byatt
Hi Bob,

I don't work for a University but have been employed at UNITE (Student Accommodation - not the Union) for the last 4 1/2 years.

I liaise with a few Uni H&S Managers on common issues such as Accommodation Management & general FM as well as shared risk profiles of customers etc.

So if a UNI has significant halls of residence on campus there would be plenty of long term opportunities in the FM/building services field.

Other than that, I can only think that exposure to some of the research labs and managing risk there would be great experience for moves into the sciences etc. Most large Uni's will be like working in a range of mini industries all under one roof so I would imagine the opportunities to gain a good range of risk management skills is pretty good including stuff like student welfare, personal safety, fire risk management and all your staple H&S subject matters.

Hope that helps,

James
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#5 Posted : 09 June 2009 10:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By DPK
I can not comment on working in Universities however i work for a very large public school with students up to 18 years of age.

One thing working in this environment has taught me is these large education premises are as already said medium size industries in their own right.
A typical week can cover subjects across the entire spectrum of H&S, etc fire safety, MH, CoSHH,CDM, meetings, off school activities such as Polo & Rugby, Expectant Mothers RA, H&S strategy, liasing with enforcement authorities, W@H, the list is endless.

I would say go for it as the learning curve is fast and endless.

IMO the difficult part of working in this type of environment is getting the teachers to think about other things than teaching, H&S can be perceived to be a nice to have not a must have.

But then i am sure there are differences in different educational places of work.

DPK
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#6 Posted : 09 June 2009 10:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sally
As others have said you have to get used to the fact that universities operate to a totally different mind set. The most common phrase I used to hear was 'but we are doing research' as though that somehow meant the law didn't apply to them. But it really hones your negotiating and persuasion skills.
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#7 Posted : 09 June 2009 13:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Donaldson
Speaking as a University Safety Officer who has now retired, I would agree with other comments that have been made.

As for being pigeon holed I know of ex colleagues who have moved from the HE sector into senior positions in other sectors.

One thing you will find is very good networking within the sector and a very free exchange of information.

Much of the exchange is facilitated by the Universities Health and Safety Association

www.usha.org.uk

John
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#8 Posted : 09 June 2009 19:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By bobjones
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate your comments and advice. Hopefully will be joining some of you at conferences soon!!
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#9 Posted : 10 June 2009 12:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tarquin Farquor
Hi Bob,

I currently work as a Health and Safety adviser in a University.

I wouldn't worry about being 'labelled' its a great job. Loads of diversity. The Uni itself is like a small town, we have bars, restaurants, a nightclub, shops, museums, libraries, accommodation blocks, many different types of buildings, a sports centre to name but a few things. Think about all of the support staff and issues that go with it.

With regards to activities students and academics take overseas research trips to some pretty remote areas, we have radioactive sources, chemicals, experiments, lasers, bio hazards, a medical facility. We get involved in new build construction and maintenance refurbishments etc as just a scratch of the surface.

Good salary and excellent pension.

Good luck with the application, I've always read SHP from the back forwards, now I never bother looking at the jobs.

TF
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#10 Posted : 11 July 2009 21:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By www.hsepeople.com
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www.hsepeople.com
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