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#1 Posted : 21 June 2009 12:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By maxmillan maddy
Hi Guys

My main aim is to become a health and safety advisor or manager in the construction industry. My concern at the moment is the lack of experience in construction. I hold the nebosh construction certificate of which the outcome has broadened my knowledge on health and safety in the construction industry.

With my qualification and lack of experience, what is the likelihood that i would achieve my aim?

My background is mainly within manufacturing/production environment.

Need advice on what would be the best way forward.

Cheers
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#2 Posted : 22 June 2009 09:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Swis
Maxmillan,

your lack of ecperience would hinder find you an adequate role in this business. Best way forward would be to do some sort of shadow/voluntar work at least. Qualificatins are important but you must also have the practical knowledge of the processes involved with any busniess.
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#3 Posted : 22 June 2009 10:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By maxmillan maddy
Hi Swis

Thanks for your advice. I have thought about volunteering or shadowing. Can you advice me on how to look for a volunteering or shadowing opportunity?

Cheers
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#4 Posted : 23 June 2009 09:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lorenzo
Maxmillan,

I don't want to discourage you but based on my personal experience the best way to work as a safety manager in the contruction industry is to have a degree in civil engineering or equivalent.

I have been working in the oil & gas and construction industry first as a safety engineer and currently as a safety manager. Honestly I've always been selected by employers because of my university background (geotechnical engineering) and my working experience and I believe that NEBOSH certificate or diploma can surely be a plus but you need to have a strong base in terms of academic background in the sector of your interest in order to get a job as a safety manager.

regards
Larry
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#5 Posted : 23 June 2009 09:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Fraser

Larry

That would apply if one is applying for a health and safety advisor / manager position with a civil engineering contractor in the uk.

For other contractors who are not involved in civil engineering ( like Social Housing / Fit Out Contractors ), you can get in with the nebosh quals and IOSH Membership and not need a degree in Civil Engineering or architecture, although some basic idea of how the design process / scaffolds is useful when communicating with scaffolding contractors in my experience.

John
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#6 Posted : 23 June 2009 11:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dav
In my experience, having a degree in civil engineering or the like would not be a factor in whether or not you managed to get a job as a H+S advisor/manager.

None of the H+S Managers that i have worked with in construction (9 years exp) have this.

Most jobs require the NEBOSH cert or the diploma.

With the just the cert and no experience your options are limited, but there are roles out there for you. Construction companies that i have worked for have sometimes taken on people with no experience OR the cert as H+S administrators, with a view to training them into the role. This can be because the budget is not there for a more experienced person so they have to go for someone with less. The money is obviously not great to start with, but after a couple of years you should be able to command a higher salary.

I guess a lot of people will be doing this at the moment, but it cant hurt to send your c.v. off to all the big construction companies.
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#7 Posted : 23 June 2009 12:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Tennant
Hi Max,
I have been a Site manager in Construction for 25 years, I have Nebosh Construction Cert, SMSTS, CSCS, First Aid, Advanced Carp/Joinery. I have always been the person responsible for H+S on site. I know the industry inside out and could build houses blindfolded. I have applied for over 50 H+S jobs in the last month and have not had ONE interview. My CV is impressive and has been professionally written. I am even struggling to find voluntary shadow work at the moment.
Good luck with the Job Hunt.

Cheers,

Steve.
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#8 Posted : 23 June 2009 12:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Tennant
Good luck with the Job-hunting.
I have been a Site and Contracts Manager in Construction for 25 years. I have Nebosh Construction Cert / SMSTS / CSCS / First Aid / Advanced G+G Carp/Joinery. I have applied for over 50 H+S roles over the last month and have not had a single interview. My CV is impressive and has been professionally written, I am even struggling to find voluntary shadow work.

Cheers,

Steve.
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#9 Posted : 23 June 2009 13:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Swis
It's quite obvious. No employer wants two safety officers in one.
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#10 Posted : 23 June 2009 14:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Tennant
Sorry about that, my computer froze midway through sending the first reply.

Cheers,

Steve.
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#11 Posted : 11 July 2009 20:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By www.hsepeople.com
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Kevin Forbes
www.hsepeople.com
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