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#1 Posted : 02 July 2009 16:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Mac
Hi All

I was wondering can any of you already involved in this industry would care to enlighten me?

Can you advise what are the industry specific courses I should be enrolling on to allow me explore the rather closed world of oil H&S?

My field is construction >20 yrs (mainly management for the last 12).

Feel free to hit me via email if you wish.


Regards


Lee
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#2 Posted : 06 July 2009 19:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Waldram
Are you thinking of Upstream (exploration and production) or Downstream (refining & distribution)?

The latter is pretty similar to bulk chemicals, so the extra stuff you would need includes process safety (including Hazid tools such as Hazop, Fault Tree), major hazards (i.e. safety cases for UK), major emergency response, i.e. large pool jet and tank fires, toxic clouds. IChem courses and books would be a good starting point.

Upstream includes additional technology associated with reservoirs and drilling, plus basic marine & aviation safety for many locations. The Petroskills website gives and idea of the range of training course - http://www.petroskills.com/index.aspx. OSH professionals need to understand the basic operations technology in addition to the OSH bits. For UK, there is a new common sector induction course MIST which would be a starting point for you, see http://www.opito.com/ind...k=view&id=164&Itemid=99. Also many upstream OSH-related standards, guides, tools, etc. are available to peruse and download from the OGP, Energy Institute and Step Change websites.

Hope this helps, good luck.
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#3 Posted : 07 July 2009 10:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Haggis JM
Biggest problem I found was that the industry likes to keep it a closed shop - preferring those with ANY Oil & Gas experience over highly qualified outsiders.
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#4 Posted : 07 July 2009 11:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By SC
Lee, i've sent you a PM.

Haggis, i wouldn't call it a closed shop per se.
The O&G Industry is very specialised and companies prefer their H&S people to have that background knowledge.

Similarly, i wouldn't feel competent to offer H&S advice is say the Nuclear industry as i have no experience of it.
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#5 Posted : 07 July 2009 12:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Haggis JM
I'm an environmentalist, I was told a few years ago when I was runner-up for several positions that I had better knowledge than the person who got the vacancy but I didn't have O & G experience...

Well tough, I've never had prior sector experience for any of the other positions I've held over the past 30 years and have performed them without any problems.

In several companies onshore positions seemed to be treated as 'deserved' by returning offshore workers, even if they didn't have the required knowledge or experience of environmental protection / management...

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#6 Posted : 11 July 2009 20:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By H.S.E.people
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Hope to see you there.

Kevin Forbes
www.hsepeople.com
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#7 Posted : 11 July 2009 20:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By www.hsepeople.com
[reference removed] is a new website designed exclusively for people working or recruiting in the area of Health and Safety. The site is 100% Free to join and offers members the ability to exchange information and network in a way that has not been possible until now. [reference removed] combines the best features of Social Networking, Job Sites and Training resources all in one place.

Members can build a profile advertising their availability, services they offer and any company information they wish including contact details and web links. Other members can browse profiles and search using key words or location. It is easy to send a message to a member’s inbox or to leave a comment on their profile. Members can upload pictures, safety videos or even music to their profile and can easily add other friends also on the site.

It is easy to view who is online and rather than send a message or email, members can chat quickly through the sites instant messenger or using the sites forums where discussions can range from requests for information, exchanging general chit chat or talking about job leads. The forums offer freedom of speech and are not over moderated like other forums on the Net.

One of the main features of [reference removed] is the free jobs pages and RSS Jobs Feeds. The first allows any Recruiters / Companies on the site to list HSE Positions on the forums for FREE. The jobs pages are proving very popular with already over fifty agencies posting jobs in the first six weeks and many success stories starting to emerge of successfully placed candidates. The second is the RSS job feeds which are pulling jobs in from lots of other job sites all over the Web. These are broken down into categories and update as soon as jobs are listed on the relevant sites. This means that we are very confident you can find more HSE jobs on [reference removed] than any other site on the Net! The best part is it’s FREE to list, browse, search and apply for Jobs.

More ways of exchanging information is also available to any member on the site. Any member can create a blog to their own profile. If the content is relevant to other [reference removed] then that blog can be posted to the site magazine with moderator approval. Everything can be done from the control panel at the left hand side on every main page on the site.

[reference removed] is a community site and in looking for ways to fund the site, keeping the content relevant to Health and Safety and not plastering the site in banner advertising we have came up with a few ideas that may work well with your business. Firstly, the Events page, this page allows Trainers or Course providers to upload details on training events they are holding in the near future. Members of the site can then enlist for the event. [reference removed] will only charge 10% of the course cost per delegate signing up through the site. It is free to upload an event so you have nothing to lose by giving it a go.

Secondly, is the addition of a links page that will be coming very soon. This page will be broken down into three categories: Recruiters, Trainers & Consultants. Here you can place a link on a main page of [reference removed] and advertise your business to our members. As the site is new we are offering the first 25 links for only £150. If you would like to show your support for [reference removed] and promote your business to our ever growing number of members please contact Kevin@hsepeople.com



Thirdly, we will in the future be offering a product review page. This will be a great way of getting your product out into the market and visible to our members. We particularly want to hear from PPE Companies or Safety Equipment manufacturers who would like us to review their products. This service may eventually expand to course providers.

Lastly, [reference removed] is hoping to soon be able to offer a Document Library that any member will be able to add documents too. Other members will then be able to browse, search and then download any document they need. We think this will prove to be a very valuable and popular page. How many times have you been required to write a new procedure or produce a risk assessment or training presentation on a subject that you know other [reference removed] have probably covered thousands of times? No longer will you need to reinvent the wheel… Power points, Presentations, Forums, Posters, Regulations, Procedures, Formats and much more will all be able to be uploaded. This page is proving expensive to make and it would be great to hear from companies interested in sponsoring it. We are sure it will be the most popular page on the site and we could offer your company some fantastic exposure.

[reference removed] is only six weeks old but already proving hugely popular with almost 1000 members, the site has so far grown mostly on word of mouth. Only now are we starting to appear in search results and directories. I think this demonstrates how much of a hit the site is. We hope [reference removed] becomes the one place recruiters go when looking for candidates, Candidates when looking for jobs, Companies when looking for Consultants and [reference removed] when looking for information or training courses.

The site is currently receiving over 2500 hits a week and that is increasing with every new member that signs up. We are working hard to appear at the top of Search Engine Results and even though it takes time and a lot of effort we are committed to making [reference removed] a Success.

I would like to take this opportunity to invite you to create a profile on [reference removed], Advertise your company or business and have a feel round see what you think. If you see the potential in the site and wish to support it by any of the above mentioned methods then please do drop us a line. Your support will make the site a success and hopefully the one stop shop for everything HSE.

Hope to see you there.

Kevin Forbes
www.hsepeople.com
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#8 Posted : 13 July 2009 13:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Goalie
As someone in the upstream O&G industry I agree with Ian's response and ideas on which courses you require. Having said that, it's mainly the process safety teams, rather than the occupational H&S teams that deliver HAZOPS etc.

I would also suggest that you consider some courses around managing human factors / changing cultures and human/machinery ergonomics and interface. This is an area that the industry is moving into, but lack people with knowledge and expertise.

In my personal experience, the industry isn't a closed shop - I was working for a contract company doing construction projects on a refinery. I got to know the HSE team on site and after a couple of years demonstrating that I knew what I was doing, they offered me a contract position and then a staff job. I had no previous O&G experience before this.

Good luck
Goalie
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#9 Posted : 13 July 2009 14:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By naveen duggal
hi,
I do agree with the above comments,opnions of H&S professionals.Knowing & working within the Oil Industry, one has to be familiar, competent with the various processes, its control measures,Fire fighting, exposure limits.....etc.It is your choice & opportunity which you have to decide! In different parts of the world,.e. OIL industry, H&S is very important due to the nature of Risks involved and very expensive plant machinery & high Cost.
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