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#1 Posted : 05 April 2002 11:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tom Maycock I am interested in reserching what could be deemed "best practice" for ensuring that our open spaces are safe to enjoy with out a tree falling on some one. You can guess by now that such an incident did arise from a tree in one of our parks due to a combination of factors such as fungal growth in the roots and high winds. In our defence, it cannot be said with certainty whether a visual inspection would have revealed the decay which was evident below groud. I would appreciate any comments or procedures that you could share with me.
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#2 Posted : 05 April 2002 12:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick Higginson A new meaning to maintaing safe "plant(s)". Sorry, Nick
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#3 Posted : 05 April 2002 13:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tom Maycock Thanks Nick
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#4 Posted : 05 April 2002 13:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Scott Tom, apart from the unhelpful if not 'funny' response about safe plant(s), I have had a similar experience some years ago. I seem to recall that when we called the tree surgeon in to deal with the remains, he stated that a good arboriculturist should be able to determine the condition of trees at reasonably early stages of 'ill-health'. I gather that you have responsibility for parks etc, so I would suggest that you seek to find one of those arbori.........(tree surgeon), and plan a routine survey, maybe annually or every other year, using maps to identify your trees of concern. Hope this is of some help for you.
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#5 Posted : 05 April 2002 15:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Murphy Tom, Like you I work in a Metropolitan Borough Council. as a Council we have resonsibility for parks and trees on paths etc. We have an arbori... tree doctor, and such issues are dealt with by him/her. We also have a risk manager who is responsible for liaising with our Insurers (ZM) about tree claims. Perhaps you too have a risk manager or someone responsible for risk management in your Council who should be managing this? Regards John
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#6 Posted : 08 April 2002 08:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tom Maycock David,John and yes Nick thank you for your advice on the above subject. Tom
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#7 Posted : 09 April 2002 12:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kevin Minton Tom I suggest you have a look (if you haven't already) at the Arboricultural Association's website: www.trees.org.uk. They have consultants, publications etc available. Hope this is useful.
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#8 Posted : 16 April 2002 16:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Caroline Benzies As a tree owner or a person responsible for grounds upkeep which includes trees within it, it is deemed in law that you should take steps to adequately maintain trees so that they are not a danger to the public. This means that you should be aware of the general health of the trees and take steps to remove or monitor any sign of tree related problems. If in doubt a tree specialist should be employed to survey the trees ideally every year. This is to observe early on any problems that exist so that appropriate measures can then be taken. It is also important in these cases to differentiate between a 'tree surgeon' who has a vested interest in obtaining tree work which may be costly and unnecessary and a tree consultant or arboricultural consultant who gives impartial advice and does not carry out tree work as well. Information obtained from R Benzies at Andrew Harker Associates - professional Arboricultural Consultants 01925 499085
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