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#1 Posted : 27 September 2002 16:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Carolyn Dark
I have an office that is currently not used by any disabled members of staff, but this may change. Does anyone have any idea how we can evacuate disabled persons from a lower ground floor office, in the centre of London, where there is a gap round the edge of the building of approximatey 1 metre, so no room outside to act as a safe area. There are no protected lifts in this building.

Can anyone advise me what to do??
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#2 Posted : 01 October 2002 09:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor
The lack of response may well prove the difficulty of this issue. Could a stair-lift be added? A careful reading of BS5588-8:1999 is called for here - together with a discussion with the local fire officer but it may well prove to be an unsuitable location for a non-ambulant disabled person.
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#3 Posted : 01 October 2002 11:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Roberts
Carolyn,

Building regulations Document "M" is all about access and egress for disabled persons.

A copy can be obtained free online from the Deputy Prime Ministers web site at:-
http://www.safety.odpm.gov.uk/bregs/brads.htm

hope this is of some use

best regards

Phil Roberts
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#4 Posted : 01 October 2002 14:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor
If you are going to follow up Phil's point, you can see the proposed amended version of approved Document M on http://www.safety.odpm.g...ult/access/pdf/partm.pdf
This refers to lifts, platform lifts and platform stair-lifts in order of preference but note that the Building Regs deal with access for new construction of buildings and parts of buildings and do not specifically address means of escape in the event of fire in the same way that the Code of Practice (British Standard) does.
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#5 Posted : 01 October 2002 14:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Eric Burt
It depends on the type of disability but for transport of a disabled employee involving stairs you may wish to consider the use of a paraid chair. They have a website if you need further details - www.paraid.co.uk

Regards,

Eric Burt
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#6 Posted : 01 October 2002 15:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor
I've not come across an Evac-chair that works uphill yet, Eric - but would be interested to know if one exists.
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#7 Posted : 01 October 2002 16:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Murphy
Carolyn

We had a similar problem in one of our day care centres. We moved the wheel chair user and their facilities to the ground floor and the ambulent to the first (or in your case the lower ground).

just an idea

John
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#8 Posted : 03 October 2002 18:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Large
You can get chairs to go up stairs. We bought ours from a company called Ferno. They are more expensive than standard evacs though.
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#9 Posted : 04 October 2002 21:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor
Thanks for the information, Mark. I have located Ferno's website and see a 'stairclimber' type evacuation chair on http://emergency.ferno.com/chairs/model_49.htm which appears to operate on the same lines as a 'staiclimber' trolley. The effort required to move a human load in this way would appear to call for a two person operation (whereas the normal evac-chair downhill operation is a relatively easy one person job) but it would certainly seem worthwhile if two trained and competent persons can be available to enable the non-ambulant person to escape up a stairway.
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