Posted By Robert K Lewis The press releases indicate that these regs are in force as of today and I have heard that they will be effectively not enforced for a period of time because no guidance has been prepared!! This is clearly because the matter is so important that the drafters cannot possibly allow the two to run in tandem!! Can anyone enlighten me as to the current status and comment on the lack of guidance Bob

Posted By Paul Leadbetter Julie Evidently, you have not tried to download INDG370 from the HSE site as it is not yet available or, at least, searching their site does not find it. Paul

Posted By Geoff Burt Mmmm - an explosive combination! Geoff

Posted By Paul Leadbetter Following my earlier comments, the HSE guidance is now available on their website. Paul

Posted By Robert K Lewis Jim I found the best place to be, in fact the only one I can locate, is the hmso site hmso.gov.uk Click on statutory instruments, then select 2002 and the number is 2776 Bob

Posted By Jack Is the person who said this (about DSEAR): "Been slightly sarcastic, do we really expect them to finally get around to taking the DSE regs seriously? As ive stated before I know inspectors in LA and HSE who think they are a joke". the one that frequently goes on about Members (& RSPs) not being competent? Jack

Posted By Jack Too subtle for me Geoff. I've always been a bit slow on the uptake. Jack

Posted By Jay Joshi In addition to the regulations on the HMSO website,there is updated information on the HSE website:- http://www.hse.gov.uk/spd/noframes/dsear.htm It is my understanding that the guidance has been delayed to ensure that it is appropriate and takes into consideration the views from the consulatation exercise. The regultions had to be implemented--there is usually a 3 year period after the directive is adopted at European level. DSEAR implements the safety aspects of the Chemical Agents directive (CAD)and user aspects of ATEX directive. If the regulations are not implemented within the timescales, there is a risk of infraction proceedings from the European Commission. Considering the amount of effort HSE has put into this project, it is not fair to criticise them without full knowledge.After all, DSEAR is meant to replace a whole lot of prescriptive legislation. In my opinion, HSE has done a good job despite limited resources. When the guidance is published next year, it will be evident how useful it is. The HSE press release for this mentions that those who complied fully with the repealed regulations need not do much more.

Posted By Stuart Nagle Robert. I have forwarded you a copy of HSG370. Who says you can't get it !!!!!! Stuart

Posted By Carolyn Welch IOSH run a DSEAR course as part of their CPD course programme. They are held at the Grange in Leicester and one is due to take place on 19 March 2003. A few places are left but consideration is being given to another date if demand warrants it. If you don't have a Professional Development Training Programme, view one in the Professional Development section of this site or contact zoe.whitehead@iosh.co.uk who will be happy to send one to you. Carolyn Welch Professional Development Manager

Posted By Robert K Lewis Strictly speaking it arose from 2 directives - the other being the CAD. This was not the point I was making however - I was wondering about the enforcement strategy to be applied by the HSE when the acop is some months away, this being in the light of rumours that it may be quietly put aside for the moment Bob