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#1 Posted : 12 January 2003 16:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Laurie Thanks for the good wishes. Just another small query before I relax. I recently commented to (H&S) colleagues that I regarded the fact that some people crossed themselves when I approached, and that the catering staff waved garlic at me, as a bit of good humoured banter, indicative of a good friendly working relationship. I was taken to task for being an object of scorn or fun. Now, is it just me or is there a severe case of sense of humour failure here? Surely we don't take ourselves so very seriously that we cannot enjoy a bit of fun at our own expense? Laurie
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#2 Posted : 12 January 2003 17:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert M Edwards It them that need to take a reality check Laurie not you! Taking life with a sense of humour and entering into good natured banter is a good stress buster and a good way of being approachable so that H&S matters are chatted through with you early on. Stick with your view and don't join the long faced rank and file that take themselves far too seriously! Lime One Ltd www.limeone.com 0870 240 4325
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#3 Posted : 13 January 2003 10:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Elliott Laurie - I'm with Robert on this - my team of H&S advisers are constantly being told that we are "Doom & Gloom" merchants (in a lighhearted way). Our view is simple, H&S is serious stuff, but one often has to take a lighhearted view of life - if we didn't laugh occasionaly (including at ourselves) I'm sure we all end up Certifiable. Regards
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#4 Posted : 13 January 2003 10:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Zoe Barnett I couldn't agree more with the previous responses. H&S has a bad reputation as a dull, complex and scary area and because of this people ignore it with the obvious result that hazards and risks proliferate. People need to perceive the adviser as working with them and not against them. If if he or she is human, enjoys a laugh and is approachable this battle is half won. Having said that, I am not too sure about the reaction I got when I attended my first ever H&S committee and was greeted with a cry of: "blimey lads, they've sent us a dollybird."
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#5 Posted : 13 January 2003 11:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Donaldson I am also with the others on this. Very often the groups that appear to be most light hearted and joke with you are the ones who take safety seriously and give the safety team most support. Its all about building up relationships with people and getting out and speaking to them, not simply appearing when there is a problem. But perhaps that’s and old fashioned view and shows my age!!
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#6 Posted : 13 January 2003 11:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By simon carrier Totally agree with all the comments. If we as Safety professionals cannot "connect" with other people through laughter or good humoured banter then the job is so much harder. Peoples perception of H&S is already clouded with misconceptions, hearsay and conjecture so I say make it friendly and if that means being the butt of some banter so be it, providing you get the results.
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#7 Posted : 13 January 2003 12:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Graham Bullough Laurie - I agree with the comments made by other responders so far. What is notable is that you made the humour against yourself and your role or rather what some people sometimes misperceived as your role. Humour is only inappropriate if misused intentionally or unintentionally for denigrating or humiliating people. You certainly did not denigrate or demean yourself with your humour and didn't harm anyone else. However, where appropriate, humour can provide a usful way of pricking the pompous and self-important. Humour is an important ingredient for effective human relationships. To use one example in the health & safety context, we soon forget the messages of dry stuffy lecturers. By contrast we tend to remember for much longer the messages presented by lecturers who come across as human, interesting and entertaining. Although a sense of humour is rarely if ever listed in job descriptions, it is a very useful attribute for effective health & safety practitioners.
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#8 Posted : 13 January 2003 13:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Dear Laurie, I agree entirely with the previous replies. Take H&S training. I have been on some H&S courses early on in life and have been bored absolutely rotten! When some people attend induction training they have a pre-concieved idea that H&S will be boring. How wrong (most!) of them are. People will remember an lively discussion about H&S far longer than a simple lecture. Keep it up. Regards Andrew.
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#9 Posted : 13 January 2003 17:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor So - should we thank Jeremy Clarkson or make fun of him?
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#10 Posted : 14 January 2003 12:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Mycroft Many of you may have already seen this, but for those who haven't, it should bring at least smile to your face. I do agree with all you others, H&S is a very serious subject so we who deal with it need a sense of humour to survive. DEFINITION – HEALTH & SAFETY PROFESSIONAL Sandwiched tightly between top brass and the teaming masses sits a wild-eyed individual madly singing a safety tune. He’s the most misunderstood, maligned and unsung person in all the world of business. He’s the proverbial: “HEALTH & SAFETY PROFESSIONAL” This fellow’s a little bit of all strata’s… a member of none. To the employee or worker he’s a tool of management; to management he’s just another employee. He finds his job interesting. He speaks for management from the “Ivory Tower” and then runs out to the Production Area, Warehouse or Work-Site to hear how it sounds. He must keep his head in the “Brass Board Room”, his feet in the muck… a difficult position to keep from falling on his butt. He has the curiosity of a cat… the tenacity of a mother-in-law… the determination of a taxi driver… the nervous system of a race car driver… the digestive capacity of a goat… the simplicity of a jackass… the diplomacy of a wayward husband… the hide of a rhinoceros… the speed of a rocket and the good humour of an idiot. He has the busiest, shrewdest, plottingest, worryingest, most thoroughly washed brain of any human. His mail basket is always full, his desk is a constant mess and his calendar looks like cave drawings. Nobody has been given the run-around as often, has been passed so many bucks, is left holding so many bags, and has cut his way through so much red tape. The HEALTH & SAFETY PROFESSIONAL keeps the coffee plantations, aspirin plants, liquor distilleries and the midnight oil companies in business. He must tread lightly over mountains of eggs, knowing where to tread and, more importantly, when and where NOT to tread. You’ll find him everywhere… shouting loudly over the din of a bunch of roaring engines, whispering softly in the hallowed precincts of thick carpeted offices. Whenever there is an accident, the HEALTH & SAFETY PROFESSIONAL is often called in to explain why and how it happened. He’s expected to pull rabbits out of non-existent hats; when the job is thankless, he gets it. He must engender interests in good housekeeping to people who live in garage sale clutter… promote wider responsibility to people who have a narrow focus… preach safety to people who think they don’t need it. He must listen to the phrase, “that’s the way we’ve always done it,” until he vomits. Despite all the careful planning he is usually found dangling on a deadline… he’s the original cat on the hot tin roof… in the middle of a muddle and of course LATE. The master of understatement, he must make fire protection sound as essential as religion and an accident cost sound like the national debt. He’s supposed to be a “specialist” who can breathe new life into committees and meetings… leadership into management… co-operation into supervisory personnel… responsibility into employees/workers. He must inspire without propaganda… propagandise without being obvious. He parks his 1980’s jalopy between the boss’ new Mercedes and the janitor’s SUV. When he’s clever, it goes unnoticed… when he stubs his toe, the world is there to see and mock it. To him a headache is normal; he’d have ulcers if he could afford them. He has more critics than Harry Truman. He meets more people who think they know about safety than the company has conveyor hooks. He can never be right. When he simplifies, he’s pandering. When he gets a little technical, he’s over their head. Half the people wonder what he does… the other half know what he does but think he’s doing it wrong! When an idea turns out lousy and after the blame has been thoroughly kicked between the employee/worker, foreman and supervisor, it winds up in his lap. More people bend his ear than anybody else’s. Everybody thinks he always has time to stop and listen to a joke… hear a gripe… attend a meeting… serve on a committee. He does, and winds up taking most of his work home. He has no peer in the realm of praise, propaganda and procrastination. He knows he’s right; only the world thinks he’s wrong. If he has an idea, it was stolen. However, a stolen idea is research! Where else do you think the background material for this sad tale of woe about a Health & Safety Professional originated?
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