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#1 Posted : 01 May 2003 09:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By M.Blake Could somebody please confirm or disagree with a risk assessment rating for an oil spillage, if a spill kit was in place, although to use this is a reactive procedure, this would still lessen the severity. A briefing on how to handle these materials would lessen the likelihood. So if prior to implementing these procedures the Likelihood was 3 and the Severity 3, would I be correct in saying that once they were in place the Likelihood and Severity could become 2,2. And would this theory apply when using mechanical aid for manual handling? Any opinions would be helpful. Martine Blake
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#2 Posted : 01 May 2003 09:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gavin Gibson Martine Without going in to the actual details of your numeric rating system you should take a higher level view. Namely if you currently have a risk and hazard rating and you then reduce either the likelihood of an incident occurring or the potential severity if the hazard does occurr, you must be able to reduce your overall risk rating. Be aware that some precautionary measures may need to be repeated to remain effective, ie toolbox talks and reminders on precautions and spillage control, and they should be backed up with simple, clear and effective procedures / instructions. In addition, the risk assessment should be reviewed in the event of a significant spillage to understand what went wrong with your systems.
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#3 Posted : 01 May 2003 10:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hilary Charlton Not necessarily. Having a control measure after the fact does not decrease the likelihood of a spill occurring, it possibly reduces the severity of the effect on the environment however so maybe this should be left at 3,2. However, remember you would have to have an enormous spill kit for a major spill. You should try to put your control measures further up the line, is the oil container bunded including all pipework and taps? If the answer to this is no, then this is where you start. Are you transporting the oil manually, if so then can you get a vacuum pump to transfer this automatically? Just some thought processes for you. Again, going from manual handling to mechanical handling, this reduces the risk of work related upper limb disorders but there are new risks involved in mechanical handling that need to be taken into account, correct slinging, positioning of eye bolts, use of chain slings and maximum permissible weights. All the checks that need to be carried out under LOLER, ensuring all equipment is maintained to the correct standard and examined at regular intervals. Again, if you are lifting oil drums by mechanical means rather than manual means you need to ensure that all caps and lids are tight as you have less control over spills from mechanical lifting than from manual lifting. All these things need to be looked at and assessed individually, each process has it's own attendant problems. I agree that switching from manual handling to mechanical handling is almost always a good idea, as long as the hazards associated with the new procedure are identified and rectified wherever possible. Hope this helps
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#4 Posted : 01 May 2003 13:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jeff Manion It may be assistance to use a down load from our web page "environmental risk assessment. Jeff Manion, MIOSH, RSP, MRSH, MIIRSM www.groveservices.co.uk look for "down loads"
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#5 Posted : 01 May 2003 14:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Daniel I have always held that risk assessment rating systems were of little use... What does the number mean? Does it mean you have adequately controlled the risk or not? The issue is whether the measure you propose reduce or help manage the risk, not what number you abitrarily assign it. Example: driving a fork truck always involves hazard and whilst these can be minimised they cannot be eliminated. You would have to assign a high score, but do nothing more. operating a computer has little risk, but there may be action you take to reduce risk further even though you woudl only assign a low score.
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#6 Posted : 02 May 2003 10:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil Pearson The simple answer is "Yes". You do correctly understand the way to use the ratings. Are you familiar with the concept of the "hierarchy of controls"? The briefing and the spillage kit are far down the list of preferred controls, though very useful. Check you've got bunding in place. Try to redesign the process to avoid the spill risk. If you do rely on spill kits, will it actually be safe for someone to put drain covers and booms in place? The oil may be slippery, may be harmful or toxic in contact with alot of skin, and may cause overpowering vapours for someone wading around in it.
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#7 Posted : 02 May 2003 11:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson Mike, You do not mention if there is any history of incidents which would be of benefit. With this particular substance would suggest you look at the Env impacts as well as the H&S impacts, as this could be potentially the most damaging to your company and the local ground water.
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