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#1 Posted : 03 July 2003 10:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Benedict Thierry I'm preparing a RA for work next to an inland waterway.I'm unclear which would be the most appropriate type to choose.Ihave looked at the HSE info. sheet AIS No1(rev) which gives good guidance but I lack the knowledge to be able to apply the information provided. Scenario - working along a canal - water, sheer sides, isolation. Work is treating invasive weeds such as Giant Hogweed, Himalayan Balsam, Japanese knotweed. So, we have a chap togged up in PPE to protect him from contamination, he's carrying a knapsack on his back so there is his weight, the weight of the knapsack and the awkward protective clothing being worn. What would be the most appropriate choice of Personal Bouyance Equipment? Can anyone help me?
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#2 Posted : 03 July 2003 21:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuart Nagle I would have thought a (gas cartridge) inflatable type vest that could be worn over the the overalls and under the backpack would suit best. Thes inflate autommatically if the person enters the water. They can I belive be obtained in various sizes and inflatation sizes to deal with size of person (which could assist in respect of all the PPE being worn. There may also be alternative types of PPE that could make the load lighter, disposable thin but effective coveralls with hood etc may be an alternative if weeds are not sharp or piercing (e.g thorns ect) or lighter overalls with leg and arm protection (including gloves etc rather than an all in one heavy overall !! I would also suggest that lone working safety arrangements be considered if this is the case, and how any emergency is to be responded to!! Alternatively two man working groups and of course, lifebouys and possibly poles for reaching anyone. And are there any non-swimmers?
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#3 Posted : 03 July 2003 21:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martyn Hendrie Benedict, You do not indicate the type of work being carried out. If it is construction work you should be aware that the "Construction (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations require that you 1. Take steps to prevent anyone falling into the water AND 2. Prevent them from drowning if they do fall into the water AND 3. Have a suitable means of getting them out of the water. You must have all three aspects in place. If it is not construction it is not my area of expertise. Hope this helps
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#4 Posted : 03 July 2003 21:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martyn Hendrie Sorry, just realised I had not read your original thread in enough detail
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#5 Posted : 04 July 2003 08:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tony Overbury Benedict I would be looking at a gas inflatable life jacket fitted with a hydrostatic valve (which would prevent the jacket from inflating if it merely got splashed), but you really need to contact a specialist supplier and discuss your needs with them. I use Crewsaver (www.crewsaver.co.uk) products when I go boating, but there are many others to choose from. Hope this helps Tony
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#6 Posted : 04 July 2003 09:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hilary Charlton Does the worker have any form of breathing apparatus? If he is dealing with invasive plant life then it may be an idea to assume that if he falls in he could get trapped in said pond life. Even with a buoyancy aid, suppose it were to inflate but he was trapped face down in the water and held in place by the weeds? This may have already been looked at but you don't mention any form of emergency oxygen supplies so I wonder if it is a possibility? Hilary
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#7 Posted : 04 July 2003 10:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Adams The life jackets you are thinking of generally come in a standard weight rating. Someone, somewhere, manufactures a greater weight rating jacket which is supplied to Royal Marines and called an "Assault Life Jacket." It has sufficient bouyancy for the larger than average adult carrying anything up to 50KG of equipment fastened to their person. I don't know where you can get them, but they do exist.
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#8 Posted : 04 July 2003 13:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Mycroft Benedict Reading Hilary's response I'd like to just give a word of caution, but you will probably be on top of it any way. Make sure that, whatever make of jacket you decide on, it is a LIFE jacket and not a BOUYANCY AID. They are very different amimals. A life jacket will keep a person afloat and face up even if unconsious, a bouyancy aid will keep a person afloat but not necessarily the right way up and so they still could drown.
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