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#1 Posted : 23 July 2003 20:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Willian Holbrook I am at present carrying out a risk assessment program on hgv drivers collecting milk from farms. The farms I have visited with the drivers have very often ground conditions that are heavily contaminated with slurry. This then contaminates the tankers collection hoses, which the driver then handles. I have become concerned with the possibility of Weils disease (spelt viels disease), which I know is spread by rat urine, and can be caught by contamination through cuts to the skin etc. would anyone have any further knowledge of the illness, the levels of risk and figures on the illness in this country, so I may be able to judge the possibility of the disease affecting the drivers. With thanks Bill Holbrook
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#2 Posted : 23 July 2003 21:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Sedgwick Bill Its quite a few years since I studied this but I do believe a certain workers e.g. in sewers can be inoculated against this. Obtain advise from your Occ Health Physician or even a GP. There is an HSE leaflet, which should be given to those at risk (have a look on the HSE web site) I also believe that another form of Leptospirosis can be contracted from cattle urine. From memory this is Leptospirosis "Harjo". I am sure some of our other colleagues will have a better working knowledge of this and other zoonoses. Check the leaflet out on the HSE web site. Regards Steve
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#3 Posted : 24 July 2003 09:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Huckle Bill The HSE have a good publication called Occupational Zoonoses, this gives information on both Weil's Disease and Lepto Harjo (the cattle form). We have alot of staff who are working with cattle and their waste products, to avoid problems with the cattle from we try to ensure that all animals are vaccinated. I appreciate that this will not be posssible in your case on commercial dairy farms. However, we also insist upon very high levels of personal hygiene, supply staff disposable vinyl gloves and with bacteriocidal hand wipes, if good hand washing facilities are not available, ensure that all cut and abrasions are covered with waterproof plasters and provide information on various zoonoses and their symptoms ( HSE cards IACL 25A & ING 84). Hope that this is of some use. Regards Chirs
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#4 Posted : 24 July 2003 09:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor The HSE leaflet is available at http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg84.htm . I believe that the reported incidences of Leptospiroses are fairly low but you should take into account that their are other diseases that can be transmitted to humans from rodents, cattle and soil and consider the need for information and training, personal protection and good hygiene before eating, drinking, touching mouths and noses, etc. Perhaps EMAS and the HSE's Agriculture and Forestry Advisory Group can help further?
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#5 Posted : 26 July 2003 09:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuart Nagle there is no innoculation against weil disease available as far as I am aware. Sewer workers may have innoculation against a range of dirsease, such as hepatitis ect. The correct procedures are hygene and PPE both before and after working, covering cuts and abrasions with plasters (waterproof) and maintaining PPE in clean condition.
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#6 Posted : 26 July 2003 16:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Willian Holbrook Many thanks for the replies on my query regarding weils disease. I have obtained the HSE literature on the subject as suggested. However the problem as I see it would be that the drivers are supplied with good quality waterproof PPEs including thick arm length gloves. When the driver picks up and disconnects the hose both gloves (and to a lesser degree) other clothing become contaminated. The dilemma arises when the driver re-enters the cab of the vehicle removes the gloves and starts to drive. If he touches any part of his clothing that is contaminated with his hands or any of the clothing should touch his face, then infection could arise. The vehicles including the cabs are thoroughly cleaned at the end of each shift and fresh PPEs are worn every day I do not feel that a change of clothing after each collection would be a practical solution. Any suggestions? Bill Holbrook
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#7 Posted : 26 July 2003 19:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Allan St.John Holt Bill, Why don't you talk to EMAS about it? What you seem to need is the survival time in air, isn't it? You might find that out from the Web, in fact - Centres for Disease Control in Atlanta might have the information for example. Allan
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#8 Posted : 26 July 2003 21:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Linda Crossland-Clarke looks like a SSoW needs developing. As everyone has mentioned, ensure all cuts are covered with waterproof plasters, ensure no eating/smoking in the cab until personal hygiene has been attended to and then look into some sort of spray to put on surfaces at the end of the journey. Then do the training and provision on info bit to the staff. Awareness cards can be issued so drivers can present them to their GP if they display the "flu-like" symptoms. I've seen what this can do to people and its not nice, blood transfusion was even offered to my freind in the sewerage industry. Linda
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#9 Posted : 27 July 2003 19:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Allan St.John Holt Well, sure, Linda - but surely he needs to know first what the survival times are? If the viability in air is the same as HIV, for instance, then a lot fewer precautions would be necessary. Allan
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#10 Posted : 28 July 2003 08:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jack Don't forget there are many types of Leptospirosis and your slurry could be contaminated with at least 2: Leptospira hardjo which is found in cattle and Leptospira icterohaemorrhagiae which is associated with rats. There is no vaccine available in this country for humans (Cattle can be immunised and that reduces risk for humans). Precautions as in previous responses: good hygiene, covering cuts with waterproof plasters, ppe and information for those likely to be exposed usually by issue of card (it's important that staff know that should they exhibit (flu like) symptoms after exposure that they go to their GP and show her/him the card. Treatment with antibiotics in early stages is usually effective.
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#11 Posted : 28 July 2003 11:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Michelle Driscoll Ever thought about the paper(?) boiler suits and plastic overshoes? These can be discarded in a bin and disposed of safely via furnaces maybe? Was once told the story of a golfer who contacted Weils after licking his balls - golf ball I hasten to add - in order for his shots to go further.
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#12 Posted : 28 July 2003 12:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Elliott You could do a lot worse than talk to your local Consultant in Communicable Disease Control (CCDC) contactable through the local Health Authority. Or alternatively an Infection control specialist also via local Health Trust. They will be able to advise you concerning the viability of survival of the pathogens to enable you to put in place control meaures.
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#13 Posted : 29 July 2003 08:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor I once had a cemetery worker contract this - which was attributed to eating his sandwiches with unwashed hands after touching contaminayed soil from a rat-run.
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#14 Posted : 30 July 2003 09:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adrian Watson Dear William Leptospirosis is caused by pathogenic serovars of the genus Leptospira. A notifiable disease in humans throughout the United Kingdom, it is reportable under the Reporting of Injuries, Diseases, and Dangerous Occurrences Regulations 1985 (RIDDOR) to the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) and is a Prescribed Industrial Disease. Leptospires persist in the kidneys and genital tracts of carrier animals and are shed in the urine and genital fluids. Humans may be infected through direct contact with animal urine or by environmental contact in areas contaminated by animal urine. Leptospires can invade the mucous membranes or abraded and water-softened skin leading to bacteraemic infection. Environmental conditions are important for the survival of leptospires outwith the host, the optimum being warm, moist conditions with a pH close to neutral. Man is always an accidental host. Human disease and its severity varies according to the infecting serovar although all forms of the disease start in a similar way. The serovars encountered most frequently in the United Kingdom are Leptospira hardjo and Leptospira icterohaemorrhagiae. Weil’s disease is a clinical syndrome associated with Leptospira icterohaemorrhagiae. Infection, maintained by the brown rat, may be severe requiring careful management of the patient and presents a risk to those engaged in water associated leisure activities and occupations in contact with inland waters. Human infection with Leptospira serovar hardjo, a milder form usually acquired through urinary tract shedding by cattle, the maintenance host, is frequently an occupational disease of agricultural workers, especially those involved in cattle and dairy farming. In England and Wales there were between 13 and 32 reported cases and between 21 and 54 cases of laboratory confirmed cases of Leptosptospirosis in the years between 1990 and 2000. The majority of cases are generally Leptospira icterohaemorrhagiae, followed by Leptospira hardjo. Approximately a quarter to a third of cases are acquired overseas. As you can see this is a faily rare condition. I would suggest that the risk to hgv drivers collecting milk from farms would be extremely low even though the tankers collection hoses would become contaminated by coming into contact with the ground. Furthermore the most likely serovar likely to cause infection would be Leptospira hardjo. My general recommendation would be to ensure that the drivers' are aware of the risk; they inform their doctor if they have any febrile condition; they cover cuts with waterproof plasters; they wear rubber gloves when handling dirty hoses; they keep connectors clean and exercise good personal hygiene, i.e. wash their hands before connecting up. This will minimise the risk from leprospirosis and other bovine zoonosis, as well as ensuring that the prouct is not contaminated at source. Regards Adrian Watson
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