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Posted By JamesK
Hi Folks,
I have searched the net and at this moment in time I am in no mans land. I need shocker photographs in order to aid me in getting people to realise the end results of unsafe practices in the construction/steel erection industry. All of the sites that I have visited, one needs to pay for photographs. Is there any site whereby I can download photograps free of charge?
Many thanks for yur assistance with this.
Orindeed if anyone would care to share their own photographs I would be most greatful
James
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Posted By AlanB James, I have attempted to response to this once before, but my message has been lost in the abyss of cyberspace! But my apologies if it does come through and I repeat myself. You don't mention the name of the website you have found, but www.safeteng.net is an excellent website containing hunderds of shocker photos (some EXTREMELY graphic), and would suit your needs perfectly. I know this site is plannign to charge for access during this month (I think it may be the end of the month), so it is best to attempt to get on now, before they charge), but even if they have started charging for access I urge you to pay the $25 (it's American) or so fee. as the sites (and especially the photos) are excellent. And they certainly will get the message home!! Alan
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Posted By Sean Fraser James, Most frequently cited is: http://www.safteng.net/American, but still relevant as stupidity is truly universal! Note that there is a request for financial assistance to support the site - it isn't subscription based yet, but who knows what the future may bring? It would be a shame to lose it as a free resource as there is probably at least one photo (and probably more) to illustrate a specific point, if you look hard enough. You might still have to register to get to the photos section but it is free to do so (for now).
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Posted By Carl Wignell I would cautiously recommend www.rotten.com for some very shocking images.
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Posted By Nigel Hammond
Are you sure you want to use shocker photos? I thought the general view of the h&s profession is that they do not work and that motivation to change behaviour is achieved by positive goals - not scare tactics because people tend to think that it won't happen to them.
I was motivated to take fire safety more seriously when I was at college - after seeing a slide show of burnt-out bodies. It didn't stop my colleagues flicking matches across the common room for a 'laugh' the next day.
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Posted By Gilly Margrave
Safeteng now charges for the pics (but not for the newsletter) but it will hardly break the bank at $25/year
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Posted By Merv Newman
I just know that this is going to be counterproductive - DONT LOOK AT THE ROTTEN WEB SITE.
1. it is vomit producing
2. You aint going to find anything on safety
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Posted By AlanB
Come on Merv, give me break! The Safteng website is an excellent source of some alternative safety material not available elsewhere. Sure, some of the photos are very graphic and may be vomit inducing, but I bet they ae nowhere near as disturbing as actually seeing something similar in real life when it has just happened at your workplace!
We have used some shocking photographs as part of our training, and the feedback and resposne were very positive. It does get people to stop and think.
In addition to the excellent photographs (and there are plenty of them!) is some good safety information on various issues. I suggest you also register to recieve the newsletters. You may get them weekly, or on a daily basis. It varies, but it occasionally contains some good info on safety issues, as well as listing safety incidents from around the globe, which are both interesting, informative and if used correclty can be used to highlight the real consequences of poor safety.
I think it is spot on, and I will certainly be paying the $25 fee for the year.
Alan
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Posted By Sean Fraser
Just to clarify, the advice from Merv was not to look at rotten.com - hence the reason it was cautiously recommended. Anyone who is familiar with the nature of Bizzare magazine will have an appreciation on what is on Rotten.com. You go there at your own risk, as it were.
As for use of graphic images - I think they have their place in demonstrating the consequences of when it all goes wrong, but I think that they need supported by case studies / pertinent examples so they are in context and should be a small proportion of whatever the presentation vehicle happens to be, where the positives will constitute the overwhelming majority. Keep in mind what message it is that you want the audience to go away with - optimism or despair!
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Posted By Allan St.John Holt
I've always found that throwing in a few laughs gets remembered just as much as the shockers - in fact I rarely use them. There are loads of 'funny' shots of people doing silly things going the rounds. Most of us have had them emailed from non-safety people, in fact.
So my advice is, make 'em laugh and they remember, make 'em sick and they won't thank you. Safety is a selling job at the end of the day (and the beginning, for that matter). Generally helps to keep the customers on your side by appreciating the daft things that others get up to, rather than scaring them er, witless.
Allan
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Posted By ian mcnally
Hi James,
Funny isn’t it, back in January I asked for the same information and it was even suggested IOSH may look at setting up such a service??. I only had three responses so assumed there was no demand for such pictures. It comes as no surprise to see a website about to charge $25 per year for the privilege and for people happy to pay this, it will no doubt make a fortune and good luck to them. Pity us Brits couldn’t have shown a bit more enthusiasm though. Maybe IOSH could rethink!
I too provide training for a variety of audiences and have always thought it effective to tailor the content to your audience. I do agree with the method used by Alan St.John Holt, making them laugh along the way with the odd placed shocker does seem to work. Keep the shockers to a minimum though. Two pictures recently sent to me are certainly graphic without being too gory. One shows an outline of a body at the bottom of a trench – Pretty powerful to emphasise the reason to provide earthwork support then go on to spell out the Regs and guidance you will have their attention and why not end on some pictures of good and daft practice! , (s’pect you know all this anyway)
The other picture sent shows a man on a hospital bed with a putlog tube through his buttock! No question a safety harness would have prevented this one! You will I suggest have their full attention. You may want to warn your audience of pending graphic pictures as some will not appreciate them!
I understand the pictures were obtained via safeteng.net. I haven’t looked at this site myself yet.
Best of luck with your search..
Ian
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Posted By John Webster
The rotten.com website is basically a sick form of pornography and has nothing to do with health & safety. If you get off on looking at mutilated body parts, you are in the wrong job.
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Posted By JamesK
I think thi sthread has gone a bit off the track. I have visited the naaval site and found some good pics. I dont think I would be inclined to visit rotten.com as I am sure that their photos are not safety related.
With regards to the use of shocker photos in training...I think that they are a great assistance to getting a message across. If you look at a photocopier you will see pictograms to show how to use the machine. A picture paints a thousand words.
I have asked since I started using these type of photos how site workers found them and was informed that the use of photos are excellent as the consequences of an unsafe act can be shown with photos.
Anyway, many thanks for your assistance with this.
James
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