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#1 Posted : 23 October 2003 16:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Zoe Barnett I see that the thorny issue of press items taking the mickey out of H&S has reappeared on these pages. Quite right too, we should be making a fuss about this misrepresentation! Surely it's time IOSH took a positive step to do something about this trend? After all, we're the ones whose jobs are made harder by the negative press - we all know how difficult it is to get the point across in a good climate, let alone one where H&S is being ridiculed - and IOSH is supposed to looking after our interests. Can't we have some kind of proactive press campaign to prove to the world that we're not a bunch of humourless, pedantic, killjoy, control freaks? Even a straightforward letter to the papers from IOSH (maybe even a joint approach with the BSC?)would be better than the silence with which these stories are being greeted.
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#2 Posted : 23 October 2003 17:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Hi Zoe, thanks for the support, I'll think of you whenever I wear it. I have been surprised by the lack of reaction to the posting; one reply and a private e-mail which both : * misunderstood the problem posed for the residents * didn't seem bothered by the tone of the article. I'm going to check to telegraph web site to see if I can ask if the journalist checked his facts before writing the article. Merv
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#3 Posted : 23 October 2003 17:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sean Fraser Zoe, Obviously I agree (since I put in the "Nanny State" article) but I suppose the danger is that by making a fuss, we might simply reinforce the negative perceptions. I wonder though if it is not the individual contributions that we all make that moulds the perceptions of our co-workers, and not the adverse publicity. After all, no-one says that H&S at work is wrong, it is the over-bureaucratic approaches and over-reactions that are being pilloried. And sometimes I think we probably do need a mirror held up to ourselves before we can appreciate the absurdity of some policies for exactly that reason. Reasonable and informed people will know that it is not the principle that is being attacked, but that it is the application that is being mocked. The best response is to review what we do for ourselves, and test the waters regarding our corporate culture and safety perceptions - if it is negative, we can deal with it directly. If it is positive, then we are doing OK and can continue to improve by building on that foundation. The public mass is seemingly on the whole ignorant and ill informed - but I have a sneaking suspicion that many are actually disgruntled with the way the media is treating them and are concerned about the manner and prevalence of mis-representation that goes on. But that, as they say, is a whole new can of worms!
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#4 Posted : 23 October 2003 20:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Grant Hutchison Zoe Excuse the pun but you are on the ball! I just read yesterday morning in a Scottish National that in the darkess parts of Aryshire (West Scotland) they have written to owners of graves in a cemetery (fourteen of which have no relations and are residing at the cemetery - you get my drift). The letter received instructs the owners that they must clean up their grave site. This is due to, yes you have guessed it, health and safety implications. What it did go on to include to my anger , was the flowers placed on the resting places due to health and safety - do these now come under the COSHH Regs? Is there not an Island somewhere that all these decision makers could go and have their own discussions together and let us front line safety professionals get on with it! Support what you say Grant
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#5 Posted : 24 October 2003 09:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze I assume this follows on from the Christmas tree thread. Can I advise caution to anyone who intends to write in. I know it sounds like I've changed my tune since last time the issue appeared on these pages, but I feel that any response, in this case, would need to be very carefully worded. I particularly like Zoe's joint approach idea. Maybe a tounge in cheek response would be best? Discuss.
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#6 Posted : 24 October 2003 10:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Just read Merv's thread on Doors & think it is important that we help the press get to the bottom of the issue & clear our name as safety professionals. I still stick by what I said in other threads though about proceding with caution though. Perhaps we are becoming victims of failing to explain the concept of risk assessment, which is still percieved as a dark art by many.
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#7 Posted : 24 October 2003 12:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Donaldson Unfortunately it’s the bad news and supposedly humorous stories which sell papers. How many of the general public would bother to read a story about the benefits of health and safety? From the news papers perspective its not going to sell their papers for them. Take for example radioactive substances. If there is a minor problem anywhere its headline news with all the pundits telling us dangerous it is. How many times do we read about the benefits of radio therapy on the front pages? It does not sell papers!!!
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#8 Posted : 24 October 2003 18:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Zoe, I think you are right. One of the responsibilities of IOSH to us professionals is to improve the image of the profession and of safety in the eyes of the general public. I would push for them to get off their collective bums (this thread may be pulled because of that word). they could engage a professional image consultant or whatever to improve the regard the public has for our profession and our advice. We pays or dues, and we expect some sort of return. (this is not a general complaint about iosh, who are generally doing a very good job (maybe the thread wont be pulled now) but just a complaint on this particular subject which does not seem to get much action) I strongly believe that anyone thinking about putting up a Xmas tree should take a bit of time to think about the safety aspects and about how to do it without killing themselves. And this is relevant whether you are doing it at home or at work as a non-routine activity which may carry the risk of serious injury, fire or electrical hazard etc. What is iosh doing about this image problem ? Merv Newman
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#9 Posted : 25 October 2003 11:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil Pearson I'm not sure a humorous response is always best - it can look a bit forced and lame. We should be humorous where we can, but in the case of the christmas trees... Basically, people are either trying to make fun of us, or are trying to portray us as killjoys. Either way, the answer could be "How much fun actually is it for X people every year to spend Christmas with a permament back injury or partially sighted? Compared to that, we feel having to wear eye protection or take other precautions isn't such a hardship."
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