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#1 Posted : 21 November 2003 09:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Benedict Thierry I would like to check a thing with colleagues in H&S to see if what is happening is typical/ atypical behaviour for issuing permits. One of the principal contractors we tender for work from does not do any pre- site checks before issuing the works order - but - before works can start - requires us to carry out a CAT scan or similar and on the information we provide a Permit to Dig is issued to us by the client. This strikes me as odd - but - maybe I'm the one who has the wrong end of the stick. Benedict
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#2 Posted : 21 November 2003 10:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hilary Charlton Hi Benedict When we have work done on our site by a new contractor, they have to go through a contractor assessment. We require a copy of their H&S Policy Statement, two year's accident stats, method statements for the work they are carrying out and risk assessments conducted by them. At this meeting we will point out any known hazards ie fragile roof, check their equipment or advise them where and how to locate ours etc. Once this is concluded they become an "approved contractor" and they are issued a permit for that job. Once they are an "approved contractor" each new job requires method statements and risk assessments by them and the hazards identified to them from our side which is done as part of the permit issuing system. It is good to remember that if they have an accident on our site, we will be held liable, therefore, getting them to produce this information up front and checking that they are committed to good health and safety practices will serve well if and when a case goes to court. This is how we deal with it - other people probably do it differently but hopefully you will get a lot of responses and see if people have alternative approaches. Regards Hilary
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#3 Posted : 21 November 2003 11:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lewis T Roberts In additioon to what Hilary has pointed out (whih is sound and common practice) The PC should be in a position to pass information to you in the first instance generally gleened from the utility services. CAT scan is about the accuracy of that obtained information and identifying previously unrecorded data and to enable you to start excavation in a safe and informed manner. It does seem odd, based on the information you give, you get a permit. Lew
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#4 Posted : 21 November 2003 15:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Benedict Thierry Hi Hilary, Thank you once again - We have provided all that type of information you highlight and we are an approved contractor on their supply chain list. We also provide site specific risk assessments and method statements in addition to the generics provided at the vetting stage. We have to attend specific site inductions given by the principal contractor and they will point out the hazards and issue us with a permit - in these types of instance - using the information supplied to them by ourselves. Yes, I too hope to receive alot of responses to see what and how else things may be being approached in other circumstances. Kind regards, Benedict
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