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#1 Posted : 02 December 2003 10:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alasdair Edgar
Hi all

Does anyone out there know where I can find regulations/guidance on the storage of smoke detectors

Cheers

Alasdair
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#2 Posted : 02 December 2003 10:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor
Presumably you are referring to ionisation type detectors. I, also, shall await a reply on this with interest. Some years ago, when we were providing these to the public cheaply, we were advised that, as the Americium 241 was at less than 1 micro Curie (that will show how long ago it was to the 'radiation community') we could keep up to 100 in any one secure place within our local authority premises.
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#3 Posted : 02 December 2003 10:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Donaldson
If you go to

http://www.hse.gov.uk/ra...nising/apparatus/ta3.htm

You will find the Ionising Radiations Regulations 1999 Certificate of Approval No TA3 of 1999 covering smoke detectors.

But you should also speak to the EA or SEPA in Scotland as they may have a different view to that of the HSE.
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#4 Posted : 02 December 2003 11:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor
John, Do you know whether the exemption from registration of workplaces where employees work with less than 500 allows this number to be stored together in one place and considered safe?
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#5 Posted : 02 December 2003 13:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alasdair Edgar
If we are storing more than 500 what are the implacations. The HSE site refers to less than 500.
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#6 Posted : 02 December 2003 14:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Donaldson
Ken and Alasdair,

I must start by saying that only the enforcers, HSE, EA and SEPA, can give a definitive answer.

If you are storing more than 500 you would be subject to the IRR 99 and all that entails.

So far as storage is concerned the EA and SEPA would have a view on this but that would be looking at the environmental impact if something was to go wrong.

Also I suspect the Fire Brigade would wish to know if you were storing large numbers of smoke detectors and may well impose conditions as well.

You must also consider transport if you are moving large number of detectors by road or rail.

Radiation protection is never simple.
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#7 Posted : 02 December 2003 14:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor
It means that if you have 500 or more of the ionisation type present at any one time in your workplace in order to store, handle, etc them you have to notify the HSE. The question remains as to whether you can store 499 of them in one small room and have people working in proximity.
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#8 Posted : 02 December 2003 16:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Donaldson
Remember the Certificate of Approval only exempts you from reporting to HSE that you are working with Ionising Radiations.

Para 3 of the Explanatory Notes reminds you that you still have to comply with the all the other requirements of IRR99

Radioactive Substances Act 93 enforced by EA and SEPA also still apply.
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