Posted By Bob Baynes We are in the unusual position for us of selling a hydraulic press. We didn't intend to, we thought it uneconomic to fit with new light guards when the old ones gave up beyond repair, but someone wishes to make us an offer for it. Well, better than what the scrap man was going to give us. Can we sell it, given that the guards do not work? We bought it at auction, I don't like to think how old it is, probably from the Fifties or Sixties. Is there a form of words that will absolve us from responsibility for anything that may happen and make the buyer responsible for ensuring its safety? Or have we got to sell it for scrap? I probably won't see any replies now till January, so if I don't acknowledge anyones help, I'm not just ignoring you! Happy Xmas to all you readers and writers.

Posted By Kevin Drew You need to tread very carefully here. There are no acceptable form of words that you can use yourself such as "sold as seen". I would refer you to an HSE press release regarding the sale of secondhand machinery issued in July'03, http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2003/e03124.htm.

Posted By Bob Baynes First day back, just read the responses. Thanks for your help, especially the reference to the HSE site which I would probably not have found by myself. Have advised management of potential liability and await their response.