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#1 Posted : 20 January 2004 15:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Allan St.John Holt
Interesting material reported in the local press at:
http://www.thisissoutham...ws/SOTON_NEWS_NEWS5.html

may interest some - lack of safety qualifications, no risk assessment etc etc.

Allan
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#2 Posted : 20 January 2004 16:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Eric Burt
Alan

Only a £5000 fine !

On Sunday I read the case of a driver who was sent to prison for 2 weeks after refusing to pay his fine for driving at 38mph on a 30mph road.

Am I missing something here?

Eric
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#3 Posted : 21 January 2004 10:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Allan St.John Holt
Eric,

I'm sure your tongue is firmly in your cheek, but of course you are missing quite a lot here. The fine was a penalty in both cases, but the reason the person went to pruison was for not paying the fine, not for the original offence. When something like 40% of all fines are never paid, there needs to be the occasional reminder to people that the system means business. And of course the court that imposed the prison sentence will have tried absolutely everything to extract the cash first, as the law requires, and it won't have had any information about the original offence.

Allan
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#4 Posted : 21 January 2004 11:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Diane Thomason
I find the most depressing thing about this case is that the boss STILL doesn't understand and accept that he has responsibility for his employees' safety.
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#5 Posted : 21 January 2004 13:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Carrick
Allan,
Just for the record, as this is now "archived" news, you need to go to:
http://www.thisishampshi...OTON_NEWS_NEWS05ZM.html.

Your original link now points to an article about the return of an old steam locomotive (interesting though!)

Regards,
Jon
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#6 Posted : 21 January 2004 15:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Simon Ayee
The follwing link takes yo to HSE's press release from June last year:

http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2003/e03103.htm

Ford were fined £300,000

"Ford Motor Company, Eagle Way, Brentwood, Essex was fined £250,000 for breaches of Sections 3(1) and £50,000 for breaching Section 2(1) of the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. The company pleaded guilty to the charges of failing to ensure the safety of its employees and non-employees using the EPOC tank at Philip Services Europe in Southampton. They also had to pay an additional £46,688 towards the costs of bringing the prosecutions.
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After the sentencing, HSE investigating inspector Andrew Stretton said: “The HSE is pleased with the outcome of what has been a complex case. We worked closely with Hampshire police during this investigation to bring it to a satisfactory conclusion. The judge made it clear that Ford fell far short of the accepted health and safety standards that then resulted in this tragic accident.

“The fine sends out a clear message of the legal requirement to ensure proper control of contracted companies.”

Paul MacKenzie, Director Philip Services (Europe) Ltd and Peter Preston, Field Services Manager, Philip Services (Europe) Ltd pleaded guilty to separate breaches of duties under Section 37 of the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974 and were fined £5,000 each.

The Section 2 charge of the Health and Safety at Work 1974 against Philip Services (Europe) Ltd was dropped, as the company no longer exists in this country."

It is interesting that the prosecution was brought before the inquest in this case.
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