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#1 Posted : 01 February 2004 17:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Clark We are the principal contractor on a CDM job. Contractor has a reportable incident while on our site. None of our employees witnessed the incident. Contractor carries out own investigation. We ask for a copy of the report, or even just some details and remedial action taken to prevent recurrence. (CDM reg19) This request is denied due to Data Protection Act.(DPA) The question is, is this really the purpose of the DPA?, is the contractor correct?, as principal contractor are we not entitled to this information? I am not worried if the persons details are left of the report.
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#2 Posted : 01 February 2004 17:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robin V Boughton You are entitled to the information. My understanding of the Data Protection Act is that it only relates to information electronically held on individuals, and if you hold such information then you must be registered under the Act. Unfortunately the DPA is often being misused. What have they got to hide??
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#3 Posted : 02 February 2004 09:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kelvin George Hi DPA is to protect individuals. ie you are not allowed to know the name. However you are allowed to know what happened. eg. A "job title" was perform task X and event Y happened resulting in accident Z. Hope it helps Cheers Kelvin
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#4 Posted : 02 February 2004 09:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Allan St.John Holt I may be able to shed some new light on this, following a meeting with the HSE to try and resolve an apparent conflict between information for safety reps and the Data Protection Act. It turns out that the DPA has nothing to do with this. Information such as accident reports only becomes data when it is ordered and stored - at which point the act and its provisions apply. The problem is really one of confidentiality, which is a human right. The individual must consent to having information about them released, and if that consent is withheld then releasing it breaches the person's rights to confidentiality - NOT the DPA. The solution is for the employer to take appropriate steps to obtain consent to disclosure. There is an interesting rider to all this, which is 'implied consent'. If the information in question is already in the public arena, then the individual is deemed to consent to its wider publication. Therefore, if the injury happens in a workplace in circumstances where everyone knows what happened, then the individual cannot demand that the information is kept private. Of course, all of this has no effect where is a duty to notify the statutory authorities - i.e. under RIDDOR. I understand that the new printing this month of BI510, the Accident Book, will explain all of this for us. Hope this helps, Allan
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#5 Posted : 02 February 2004 09:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martyn Hendrie I agree with comments regarding disclosure of the individual person(s) details. However, I also believe that the CDM regulations require the contractor to give you basic information on what happened, to allow you to ensure that others on site are not/ have not been put at risk. Also, as PC you are entitled to know of any revision to the risk assessments and SSOW (Method Statements) resulting from the enquiry/ investigation. I also see no reason why you cannot carry out your own investigation and speak directly to any witnesses.
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#6 Posted : 03 February 2004 05:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Murgatroyd If the information can identify an individual then the dpa applies. The data can be held in electronic or paper form. For more info go to: http://www.informationco....aspx?id=1038&expmovie=1 Of course, if you put pressure on them to release the info and they were wrong to so do, then BOTH of you are liable to prosecution. Oh, and the HSE have little idea of the dpa..they have been slated by the info commissioner (when it was the data protection mob) (name change, bigger salaries et-al) in the past. In fact, they also have little knowledge of the HASAWA.
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#7 Posted : 03 February 2004 09:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor As being in control of the workplace, you must be entitled to relevant information from this incident (eg Reg 11 of MHSAW Regs?). For this sort of reason, we, as clients, require notification of reportable incidents under RIDDOR as part of our documentation to the PC.
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#8 Posted : 04 February 2004 09:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Clark Thank you all for your responses, they helped a lot.
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