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#1 Posted : 03 June 2004 11:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jane Purser
Hiya,

I work for an NHS Trust and am looking into many areas of training and what we can implement and improve on.

I am currently interested in DSE intranet based training and wondered whether anyone out there can recommend a package/company that you currently use in your Trust/organisation and any info on its success rate and ease of use.

Cheers

Jane

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#2 Posted : 03 June 2004 11:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rachael Ford
Jane

I also work in an NHS Trust and we are currently using several online packages including DSE and DSE risk assessment. They are very easy to use and are proving successful. The packages were developed through a company called Network Training who are based in London. have dealt with a gentleman called Bryan Burgess who is very helpful and can be contacted on 020 83984119.

I hope this helps.

Rachael
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#3 Posted : 03 June 2004 12:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By sue cotten
Hi Jane
A company called Solutions Training are developing some e-learning packages that may suit your needs. They develop a lot of training material for the public sector. Contact them through their web site - www.solutionstraining.co.uk
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#4 Posted : 03 June 2004 12:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
just finished evaluating Ivy training package -pretty good. See www.ivysoft.co.uk
Package has facility to 'link' into in-house supporting documents via intranet.
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#5 Posted : 04 June 2004 14:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Skelding
Hi Jane

We have just implemented an online-hosted DSE package (could have in-house as well), which offers sections on training, a test evaluation and then if you pass the test, you then undertake a self-risk assessment, all of which can be monitored in-house via administrators. Bearing in mind we have approx. 1800 staff who need to be assessed, it’s great.

The system can be designed for what you want, we even added our own pictures so staff could relate to our business, and I believe a certain organisation who enforces H&S allegedly use it, must be good, I’ll email a link for you to trial the course.

If you want to discuss further just email me

Regards Paul
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#6 Posted : 04 June 2004 15:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Stone
We managed to get a syatem from Cardinus, they offer other training packages as well as DSE. This has gone down very well with our staff and have saved us time, we can now work out who needs help/advice straight away.

Hope this helps

Ian
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#7 Posted : 04 June 2004 15:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Skelding
I'd agree, Cardinus is a very useful package, give it a try on their website free of charge

Paul
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#8 Posted : 04 June 2004 22:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richy
In the financial sector I recently worked on adapting a cardinus managing safely package to suit the working environment.
I therefore agree that cardinus offer several useful solutions to intranet health and safety learning covering various aspects e.g DSE, Manual Handling and line managers responsibilities.
However when using such packages it is vital to ensure that it is individualised and that it is backed up with other visible managemnt initiatives such as physical training and auditing.
An intranet package should not be seen as the be all and end all to health and safety such complacency will result in accidents.
The intranet is a tool not a manager.
Richy Marriott
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#9 Posted : 07 June 2004 15:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By ian mcnally
Hi Jane,

I introduced an intranet software package a few years ago (I will send you the link) It is easy to use and can also offer the “user” basic office, manual handling and fire training if needed. It gets the user to carry out their own individual workstation assessment.

You or a competent safety advisor will need to monitor the results (I’m sure you would do this anyway). It cuts down on a huge amount of repetitive and sometimes over the top safety training approach and it identifies any specific areas of concern by the user. This enables you to prioritise where you should be concentrating your efforts. It has even stopped a potential claim in it’s tracks after a member of staff had taken time off. Some days had passed before we were told the employee was now complaining of back and neck aches and said they had not been given any DSE training. We checked on the system and the training had been completed some 14 months earlier and guess what…the only concerns raised had been glare from a window and blinds had since been provided and the assessment signed off by the person as resolved.

Employee now back at work, the rumour machine has it that the employee had been speaking to a friendly legal person with an eye to a fast buck.... no comment!

Happy to give you more info if you wish!

Best of luck


Ian
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#10 Posted : 15 June 2004 15:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alison Melrose
Please note - Work with Display Screen Equipment (Guidance on Regulations) clearly state that the assessment should be carried out by a competent person i.e. someone trained to carry out the assessment so technically the self assessment package would not be enough to comply with the regulations.

I worked for a large organisation which employed this type of package and it didn't work. The major drawback to the self assessment computer packages is that it relies on the individual completing it truthfully (you get different answers depending on the time of day, if you've been on holiday etc). Normally there are "trigger" questions that highlight those "potentially at risk" however, as the person may not be aware they are sitting incorrectly (too low, slouching, leaning forward, placing feet on castors as they don't realise they can have a footrest etc), they will probably say everything is fine...this just delays any discomfort for the future! It is important that a postural assessment is carried out (not just checking the minimum requirements - does the equipment provided do the job it's designed to do). I was supposed to "assess" over 560 staff members but didn't get the time to visit each person individually so unless the person had severe pain, I was to assume everything was OK...hardly a proactive approach to health and safety!

So, although these packages can be useful, they MUST be backed up with a visit from a trained individual who will discuss the problems encountered and offer practical solutions...
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