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#1 Posted : 18 August 2004 10:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Gibson
An engineer has rolled his vehicle whilst in the duty of his work and has been hospitalised. I need to conduct a accident investigation and not really sure where to start, as I've never done anything like this before. Can any body help? If some one has a template of a document it would be really helpful. Would this be reportable under RIDDOR as well, I don't think so but some expert help would be greatly appreciated.

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#2 Posted : 18 August 2004 10:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Lee
You don't say what injury he sustained,however if he cannot resume his normal duties for more than 3 days then it is RIDDOR reportable.
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#3 Posted : 18 August 2004 11:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Lee
Sorry misunderstood your posting, not reportable.
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#4 Posted : 18 August 2004 11:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Mc Nally
My feeling is that this would not be reportable under RIDDOR. I may be wrong but my understanding that the incident has to take place at the place of work, therefore going to and from a workplace even if on company business would not be included. You should clarify this with the HSE.

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#5 Posted : 18 August 2004 11:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Aston
Mark

Whether the accident is reportable or not depends to an extent on where it happened.

If it was on a public road, there are four cases where it becomes reportable:

1. Exposure to a hazardous substance being carried in the vehicle.

2. As a result of the loading or unloading of a vehicle by another person.

3. If the person was involved in repairs or maintenance on the road or its surroundings

4. If the accident involved a train.

Assuming none of these is true then the accident is not reportable if it happened on a public road.

You will have to produce a report for the insurance company. Why not use the standard and usually very comprehensive form that most insurers provide for your investigation? You might also want to see if the police have investigated, although they may not reveal details if any kind of court case is pending.

Heather
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#6 Posted : 18 August 2004 11:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Margaret Stokes
Suggest you take a look at http://www.consultnet.ie...fety_focus_july_2004.htm - lots of information on accident investigation

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Margaret
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#7 Posted : 18 August 2004 13:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By phil day
I had a query from a client today one of his employees was injured (several broken bones ) whilst travelling home from a weeks work away. I spoke to the ICC and was told that this incident was not reportable unless the vehicle was defective.
Hope this is of use to you
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#8 Posted : 18 August 2004 13:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Aston
Phil

I'm surprised by this response from the ICC, which seems to be at odds with the HSE's own guidance. The HSE Guide to RIDDOR (L73) says

"Regulations 3 and 4 (i.e.the requirement to report injuries and deaths) do not apply to accidents involving vehicles moving on public roads unless they involve or are connected with:
(a) exposure to any substance being conveyed by road;
(b) vehicle loading and unloading activities such as those performed by
refuse collectors, brewery delivery workers, furniture removers, etc;
(c) the specified construction, demolition, alteration, repair or maintenance
activities on or alongside public roads; or
(d) an accident involving a train where a person is killed or injured.

In the case of (a) to (c) regulations 3 and 4 apply whether the injured person is engaged in one of the listed activities or whether they are injured as a result of the work of someone else who is engaged in such
activities."

Nothing is said anywhere in the guidance about whether the vehicle was defective or not. Anyway, how would you define defective?

Heather

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