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Posted By David J Bristow
Hello
Reading Zoe Baker’s response to the Ebay posting at 11.45 PM last night and her comment about “getting a life”, I thought I let you know how sad some safety people are including me.
I was in London on Thursday and Friday and traveled by tube to CAE centre in Vauxhall to collect some equipment so that I could undertake a DDA audit of our London offices.
On the tube people were reading books, listening to music or just staring vacantly ahead with no one speaking.
Being a bit bored and wondering how I could pass the time, I decided that I would conduct a noise survey with my mobile phone.
When the doors shut and the engine died down the noise levels were 75 – 77 Db, then as the train gained speed the noise meter rapidly went through the 80dB range to settle, on average, at about 92-96Db peaking at 108dB.
What a sad chappie I am, but it did pass the time and left me the thought that although I enjoy traveling on the underground, I did not find it a pleasant experience because of the noise levels, and wouldn’t like that to be a daily experience.
What damage is being caused to the hearing of those people that travel the tube every day?
Regards
David B
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Posted By David J Bristow
Sorry Zoe - should have read Barnett and not Baker.
Regards
David B
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Posted By Adrian Watson
David,
Did you really carry out a noise survey with a mobile phone or was it a Freudian slip? If you did use a phone, how did you do it?
With reference to the risk. What is the total noise energy for journey, how long is the journey and how often is it made?
To calculate the risk for that one journey you need to calculate the fractional dose of the 8-hour TWA for each phase of the journey and add them all together to get the total noise exposure for the journey.
If you want to estimate the risk of hearing loss you then multiply this by the number of journeys in a year and the number of years exposed. This then can be compared against the BS on predicting hearing loss from noise exposure to give you a risk estimate of the hearing loss caused by this one journey over a working life.
Regards Adrian Watson
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Posted By David J Bristow
Hello Adrian
Nice to hear from you, we haven't spoken for a while.
My mobile phone has an integral noise meter and other goodies and playthings.
When I attended the Harrogate Health and Safety show last year I had the phone checked with a calibration unit on one of the stands - it was only slightly out.
Marvellous what they can do these days with technology.
Regards
Davdi B
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Posted By Nigel Hammond
David
Please tell me the make and model of your mobile phone. I want one. Oohh.., I love gadgets!
Nigel
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Posted By fats van den raad
Yeah, I deffo need one of them phones as well!!!!!! Please give info.!!!!!!!Please please pretty please!!!
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Posted By Karen Todd
I think the phone is a Nokia but I can't remember the model number. It also measures temperature - my husband has one, but I find the temperature measurements reading high by a couple of degrees.
I am just as sad. A few years ago I did a parachute jump. The instructor told us what speed we would hit the ground at. From this, and knowing the acceleration due to gravity and assuming the initial speed to be zero, I calculated from the equations of motion the height I would need to jump from (without a parachute) to simulate the effect of hitting the ground at known speed with parachute! It worked out at about 6 or 7ft and the roof of my garage was just the right height to practice from!!!
Karen
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Posted By Derek Rooney MIOSH MIIRSM
I beleive the mobile phone in question is a Nokia 6250
cheers
Dez
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Posted By David J Bristow
Ok you’ve talked me into it –
Nokia 5100, I have had the model 2 years now. The phone comes complete with calorie counter, thermometer etc.
But that’s not really how sad I am –
I inspect the fridge/freezer temperatures when shopping at the local supermarkets - point out to my wife Janet the breaches of Health and Safety Legislation when watching television (don’t we all!).
But my crowning glory has to be the photographs I took whilst on holiday in Greece - The pictures of the scaffold tell an other story - what an eye opener to see how Health and Safety is addressed in other European Countries.
Regards
David B
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Posted By Gary May
Hands up - I cant be the only safety officer who takes the first hour of my holiday in the EU, checking fire exits, or looking for the oldest fire extinguishers. Well it beats doing the unpacking anyway....
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Posted By Jeff Manion
We were called recently to conduct noise assessment as client used mobile phone.
When we checked with the calibrated kit is was very wrong.
I also check the fire exits, few years ago is Spain fire exits padlocked - was informed that Spain did things differently - told everyone at pool (all Europeans) mass rally at reception, doors unpadlocked - money handed back.
Couple of years ago in four star hotel USA - four weeks open, alarm raised that night next day spoke to manager - they have trained for evacuation prior to opening and staff informed to go to muster point. NO ONE THOUGHT ABOUT GUESTS, it is a longer story - being USA -they did not charge for the extras on our account.
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Posted By Emma Forbes
This is great!!! I feel I can now stand up and join an ever growing nation of sad people!! Or at least, that's what my partner calls me when I point out all these things at home/on holiday/travelling etc!
My name's Emma and I'm a self confessed saddo.......anyone want to join me!!
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Posted By Gordon Thelwell
HELL YEAH! (jumps up and down with joy) "i'm not alone! i'm not alone!"
e.g:
Spying on people when they are lifting loads
Assessing workstations in the back ground of the "No win, no fee" adverts
Reading the back label of cleaning products and wondering if i should ask for a MSDS
Constantly quizzing my dentist about his risk assessments for the Ionising Radiation
Expalining to strangers in noisy nightclubs all about the temporary threshold shift only to be asked by them "what albums have they made?"
explaining the health and safety version of 'the off side rule'i.e. what does reasonably practicable mean?
SAD PEOPLE UNITE!
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Posted By Emma Forbes
I think I love you Gordon!! Hehehehe!!
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Posted By Gary May
Tee Shirts Required - who can sponsor this?
I declare I am SAD "Safe at Desk" - with the door closed, and the phone off the hook.
Going to find a dark room to lie down.....
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Posted By Daniel Morton
So where can a person acquire a cell/mobile phone that doubles as a sound level meter?
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Posted By John Webster
I'm sure they have them on e-bay!!
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Posted By Gordon Thelwell
Hehehehe, LOVE!!
That would come under STRESS, ANXIETY and ANGER MANAGEMENT ASSESSMENTS!
8-)
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Posted By David J Bristow
Emma
If you say you love me, you can borrow my phone anytime! he he
Regards
David B
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Spare a thought for the poor drivers who have to put up with that noise daily. I should know as I have been driving trains on LUL for 18 years...and I am getting as deaf as a post! Now that is what I call sad.
Regards
Ray
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Posted By Zoe Barnett
This is very very naughty but it worked...when I was having a fireplace installed at home I got into a dispute with the company about the cost, which was in excess of their quote. I was right but they were inflexible. Imagine my glee when the manager was standing in my kitchen explaining his position to me and one of his men started to drill a channel in the concrete floor - without eye protection. I pointed this out to the manager as a serious breach of good practice. He said it was nothing to do with him as he'd issued the PPE. (Yeah, right, course he had). I shook my head regretfully, told him he was still liable as the employer and oops! let slip I work for the local council as a safety inspector and it would be a shame if I had to report him (I might have accidentally exaggerated a bit there). With the spark of panic in his eyes he agreed I could have the work done for no extra cost. Result!
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Posted By Emma Forbes
Great one Zoe - a blatant example of abusing your powers!!
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze
Okay,it's time for me to 'fess up.
My name is Jon & I'm sad! Here's why:
With all this talk about conkers and comments about their toxic nature, I went away and looked up their LC 50, which was given as 2150mg/kg in rats.
From this I did a theoretical exercise and calculated (assuming a similar LC50 for young humans) the number of conkers needed to be swallowed to have a similar effect in a cohort of year one children of weight approx 18kg.
All I can say is it's a good job they're too large to swallow whole! (Anyway you'd probably choke to death in the attempt before the toxins got you.)
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Posted By David J Bristow
Hi There
What DO I do? - I have no conker trees near where I live! I am from an Urban area where the kids burn all living things including "conker trees".
HOWEVER!
I have a phone that has calorie counter, noise meter, thermometer, and the bestest of all "A TORCH" - for dark periods and Confined Spaces entry.
SAD OR WHAT ?
Regards
David B
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Posted By Karen Todd
More gadgets:
I recently got a 4-in-1 environment meter from Maplin for £39.99 including VAT and delivery that measures noise (A and C scale), temperature, humidity and light! Others are selling the exact same instrument for up to £175 + VAT + delivery uncalibrated. Mine is uncalibrated, but I can get it calibrated for about £80. I've still saved myself over £150. It's now up to £69.99 though - glad I bought mine when I did!
I now get Maplin's mails, which are full of gadgets and have seen loads of things I'd like. I saw a gadget that turns your laptop into a TV.
I also saw a watch which measures wind speed, and I thought this would be good for the likes of roofers. Go to Maplin and do a search for Windmaster Watch.
I'm not in any way connected to Maplin, but am having difficulty in not purchasing any more of their gadgets...
Karen
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Posted By Gary May
Ive just surfed onto Maplin, wow nice toys. But still cant beat ebay - got myself a lovely pair of steel toe cap special forces magnum leather assault boots,with gortex for £50.00 retail at £120.00.-WOW
Just need to get them muddy now.......
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