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#1 Posted : 18 October 2004 11:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick House Hi all I've gone completely brain dead this morning, so hopefully someone here will be able to help me out. What is the term used when someone (who should be on company business) is in a completely different area - i.e., they should be in a meeting in London, but are in fact driving around in the Midlands........ Regards Nick.
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#2 Posted : 18 October 2004 11:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter Lost!
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#3 Posted : 18 October 2004 11:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark R. Devlin sacked
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#4 Posted : 18 October 2004 11:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark B misinformed!
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#5 Posted : 18 October 2004 11:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike Craven "on a frolic of his/her/their own" - I think??? As in "Hilton V Thomas Burton (Rhodes) 1961" A group of workers used the works van to go to the pub, rather than getting on with the job. One was killed in an accident on the way home. The court found that there is no vicarious liability where an employee diverts from the normal course of employment without authority and goes on a frolic of his own, and the case was dismissed Mike
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#6 Posted : 18 October 2004 11:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Aston Very, very naughty. Seriously though.. "acting outside the terms of their employment" might cover it, or "misuse of company transport" or "falsifying expense claims" or "gross misconduct" - it really depends on their contract of employment. At any rate, a sackable offence if they were seeking to defraud the company in some way I would have thought. Heather
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#7 Posted : 18 October 2004 11:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick House Mike - that's the one!! Thanks a lot. Also thanks to the other respondees for their 'smile raising' responses - one of you is closer than you may think...........
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#8 Posted : 18 October 2004 11:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Del Basi Nick You are probably looking for AWOL. On a serious note, I would give the person the benefit of doubt to start off. However, as it is a serious matter it needs to be investigated fully, before any disciplinary action is considered. Kind regards.
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#9 Posted : 18 October 2004 12:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick House Hi all As the person was caught out, and denied where he was at first, then admited to someone else (unwittingly), he has now actually resigned, as he was on a trial period ina new position within the company, which has now been revoked..........
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#10 Posted : 18 October 2004 12:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Karen Todd Hello Nick, I've come across this one before as my husband is a lorry driver and some of the companies he's worked for have trackers fitted to the unit. All the companies he's worked for which have trackers fitted to the lorries have made their employees aware of the trackers, and what the drivers are allowed/not allowed to do, e.g. sometimes need prior authorisation to drop the trailer and head to the services to get something to eat, or prior authorisation to take the lorry home or do a private run. Permission was always given to all reasonable requests. However, some of his friends have worked for companies which have not told their drivers of the presence of the trackers. There was much discussion about this, and some thought that they could potentially leave and claim for constructive dismissal, as there had been a fundamental breach of the employer/employee relationship (namely trust) - for the employer to fit a tracker to the vehicle and not tell the employee. Others swore that they would phone the police having discovered a 'suspicious object' attached to their vehicle, hoping that the bomb squad would come and do a controlled explosion on their vehicle and then that would be the end of the tracker!!! Regards, Karen
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#11 Posted : 19 October 2004 12:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Petrie Peripatetic
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#12 Posted : 19 October 2004 17:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Laurie This person is obviously unmarried. An married person would not have been caught, and if they had been, would have had a perfectly plausible unprovable excuse, sorry - reason! Laurie
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#13 Posted : 19 October 2004 17:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By neil prosser They are on a frolic of their own neil
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#14 Posted : 19 October 2004 18:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By RP This is often called Leadus-plumbie(y) from the roman term for swinging the lead... or was he actually lost???
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#15 Posted : 20 October 2004 09:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By JD Daley Who's navigating? Tell them to turn the map the right way up?
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