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Posted By Patrick Teyhan Colleagues, I have been approached by members of staff who have complained that all three are suffering from a stomach bug.
They have suggested that the likely cause is the boiled water, which is drawn from the office Water Cooler for making tea / coffee.
Does anyone have any information / experience on this being the case?
Regards
Patrick Teyhan
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Posted By fats van den raad Patrick, I would doubt very much if the boiled water is the source of any bug, as the mere fact of boiling water kills most if not all bugs that can be found in water. You can pick up problems from the water coolers that use bottle water if you do not maintain, clean etc. them regularly, but boiling the water should take care of any of these problems. Best sollution is to change bottle type water coolers for mains water fed ones with UV filters in. Less maintenance, less problems.
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Posted By Katie Hoyland was the person concerned a farmer ? if so then they may be susceptible to water cooler boiled water. If not then try looking on www.freshnet.com for some advice. Sorry i cant be more help.
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Posted By Laurie Katie
Are you being a bit tongue in cheek, or is there a genuine reason why farmers should be allegic to water cooler boiled water?
I'm fascinated!
Laurie
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Posted By Jeff Manion Have had experience of a coffe machine / vending machines causing problems.
The type of machine was filtered i.e. you used a bag of coffee (large T bag type) in top of machine put water into vessel, water was heated and passed through coffee filter. Then coffee was held in jug. Scenario was that no one could be bothered to change the coffee bag, this became "infected" with bacteria (unknown species) two people who did take coffee had vomiting etc.
vending machine was not cleaned regularly and this enable a build-up of bacteria - no reported illness. Jeff Manion
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Posted By Katie Hoyland i wasnt being tongue in cheek, farmers are susceptible to water cooler boiled water due to interference from the Futchenz bacteria in their lower stomach. This only really applies to arable farmers.
hope this is of some use.
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Posted By Lance Morgan Fats is correct. Boiled water is most unlikely to be the cause of stomach upset. Most likely some type of enteric viral infection (small round viruses) which tend to flourish this time of year. Check toilets for cleanliness and remind employees of the importance of handwashing etc.
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Posted By Patrick Teyhan Thanks for the replies. I am sure that it is not the water in the cooler. But did you know it is not recommended to use cooler water in a kettle? This is due to the mineral scumming up when boiled and choking the kettle element!
Thanks for the information I believe it must be a hygiene problem. I have had the water cooler replaced and am reviewing the brewing up process
Regards
Patrick Teyhan
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Posted By James Andrew Scott The only experience I have of these is when a water cooler was sited near to a window and sunshine on the bottle encouraged bacteria to grow making people who drunk the water ill. This was solved by of all things a giant "tea cosy" supplied by the water vendor to cover the bottle. This type of water has a lot of minerals in and generally is not good for kettles/coffee makers etc.
James
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Posted By Keith Whittle Katie, as you suggest arable farmers are susceptible to water cooler boiled water syndrome from the Futchenz bacteria. There is a research page if your require additional information - http//www.futchenz.touchole.com.
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Posted By Jim Walker Katie,
You are taking the P***
What's this Futchenz bacteria malarky?
How could boiled water differ form any other liquid once it has reached the stomach.
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Posted By fats van den raad I know this is a p***-take, but I also have to admit that it's gone over my head.
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Posted By Katie Hoyland Keith
thanks for the info on the futchenz bacteria syndrome. The site was enlightening, i didnt realise that neutralisation of the bacteria was possible , so very useful. I have several clients who are arable farmers and susceptible, so this will be excellent info for them.
thanks all the same for the remark fats etc, but no p**s take here. soz
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Posted By Laurie I'll say it again.
The variety of H&S generally, and the info you get on this forum, is awesome!!
Laurie
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Posted By RP Just a thought, what do they use to wash cups, etc. and are they left to drain or are they dried. Also there is risk of bacteria growth around any outlet tap from boilers as well as copper from 'cooked' elements. I ask this after talking to a cousin who is in the water industry.
PS- We had a problem with this and the case was solved by instructing the storemen not to use scouring powder to wash cups in!!!!
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