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Posted By Katie Hoyland
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I have serious manual handling issues regarding the installation of a fire safe safe in our offices. It weighs approximately 750 kg and no manner of shoving will budge it. The installers say that installation is not included. Some one mentioned 'acroc props'(?) should be under it. If so does anyone else have experience of using acroc probs to move a heavy item such as the safe? If so is their a company that specialises in acroc props who i can contact. The safe is currently blocking our reception.
I'm at my witts end.
Katie
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Posted By colin
if you are moving it across the floor on one level, just use anything that's "scaffold pole" shape, once you have managed to lift one end high enough to roll a pole underneath, just repeat the action using a few poles and "roll" safe across floor by pushing and replacing the pole at the from when it comes out the behind the safe, 2 person job without too much physical strain.
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Posted By Richard L
Katie,
Can’t you get a couple of your subordinates to shift it, especially the one who wears the rather tasteless baseball caps.
Richard
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Posted By Danny Swygart
Acrow props is the term I think you are looking for (screw props for holding up walls, ceilings etc.).
Ask your local builder, but I'm not sure how they will help with this task.
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Posted By John Mulhern
"Acrow Props" has become the generic name for screw jacks (basically adjustable length scaffold tubes", a bit like using the term hoover for a vacuum cleaner.
Anyhow, cut lengths of scaffold tubes could be used as rollers, would not recommend it though as there is always the difficulty in removing the tubes safely, especially in confined space situations, i.e recesses in which the safe may be sited.
Suggest you use compressed air flotation devices, they are very effective, raising the equipment to be moved on a cushion of air, and requiring hardly any physical effort for final positioning, try local plant hire companies if you wish to carry out the work yourself, they will also provide advice on using the equipment. Or contact your local furniture removal company (they are used to heavy item transportation).
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Posted By Lance Morgan
Katie
How was it delivered (moved) to the reception area. Could you not employ the same method?
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Posted By Peter Batty
Katie, perhaps the reference to Acrow props was not for manual handling. Is the safe being located on a solid ground floor? If not the weight of the safe may exceed the floor loading. The tragic Event in Glasgow (Merryhill) earlier this year,that was reported as an explosion, is now being investigated as a possible building overloading, leading to collapse.
To move the safe, the method used to be lift the unit onto " riggers skates" like a small skate board but designed for the loads, this will allow the safe to be moved easily over a smooth floor.
Regards
Peter.
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Posted By DavidHaddon Katie, take a look at the following website www.steerman.co.ukThe company provides "skates" which are ideal for this task. However considering the weights involved you may want to engage the services of specialist "machine-movers".
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Posted By Dave Daniel
Before you do anything you'd better check that the floor in your office will stand the weight. the "Acro Prop" may well be aimed at trying to put temporary supports in place in the floor below to stop the thing going down into the basement. You may well need reinforcement putting in to spread the load over the floor so I'd recommend you go back and ask about specialist safe installers. There are companies who specialise in this work.
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Posted By Julie Geairns
I'm pretty sure this yet another wind up. I mean 'the installers say that installation is not included'? Surely a contradiction of terms?
Anyway, how come Katie's email address when you click it is some guy's name??
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Posted By Katie Hoyland
julie
do you want a job?
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Posted By Peter Longworth
Katie
(If that really is your name)
Do you think that one day you might make a sensible contribution to anything.
We all like a bit of humour now and then but yours really is wearing a bit thin
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Posted By Jim Walker
Katie,
Could you not use a Troll.....ey
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Posted By Tyler
I know it has been translated for us on one of these threads at some point but what the blazes is a "Troll" and "Trolling" ?
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Posted By Lance Morgan
Troll: Annoying board member who basically contributes little and causes problems whenever and wherever possible
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Posted By Katie Hoyland
Thanks to davids response re skates., the safe is now in its correct position. How heavy is documentation though as i need to work out the 'loading on the josts' as my director puts it. Any idea anybody? would 8 acroc props be sufficient?
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Posted By fats van den raad
Structural Engineering now another one of your (in)competencies???
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Posted By Ron Young
I think Katie H's (or Richard, or is that Dick) comments are better than MarkSMark's. Anyone agree?
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