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#1 Posted : 19 November 2004 16:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert S Woods
I’m looking for info on the guidance or legislation requiring employers to have their electrical installation inspected.

Any help would be appreciated.
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#2 Posted : 19 November 2004 16:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil Tonge
The legal requirement under the Electricity at Work Regs is to have a safe installation.

How you demonstrate that is by ensuring your system meets the requirements of the latest edition of IEE wiring regulations (16th at the moment). You should have the checks done by an ECA or NICEIC approved electrical contractor and the timescale between tests and re-certification varies depending on the likelihood of damage to the system. I think its 3 years for foundries etc and 5 years for all others.

Hope this helps

Neil
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#3 Posted : 19 November 2004 18:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By andy Harris
Try the following link

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg231.pdf
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#4 Posted : 19 November 2004 18:30:00(UTC)
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#5 Posted : 20 November 2004 11:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuart Nagle
Robert.

The electricity at work regs require all installations in the workplace to be carried out in accordance with the relevant specifications (IEE 16th Edition/BS7176) and to be inspected and a certificate of inspection issued.

Periodic inspections are also required, as are drawings of the systems and any alterations/amendments/additions, and all cable runs that cannot be traced visually must be labelled as must all junction/fuse boxes etc etc....

Regards...

Stuart
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#6 Posted : 28 November 2004 18:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By russell calderwood
Colleagues

Tagging onto your informed opinions - do you have any thoughts as to the IMPACT the enactment of Part 'P' "Electrical Safety" will have upon us?

My initial thoughts see this as an electrical nightmare for individuals, and the LAs, to take forward as from the 1/1/5 !!!!!

I am all for enhanced safety, but I believe this piece of legislation is a step, if not a leap, too far -
- with major cost implications for all and sundry; will increase the number of electrical 'cowboys' looking to make a quick buck by scaring people into 'altering'
  • their electrical wiring for no good reason[**], & from another viewpoint people will see this as an imposition & be reticent to update their electrics - with the result that there will be more 'failures / fires' [***]; it will become a administrative, if not a legal, nightmare; will lead to enhanced house sale costs; and where do we find all these correctly accredited electricians with a good understanding of the 16th edition ?!!!!!
    And ps: what stats / cost benefit appraisal justifies part 'P' imposition ? !!!

    * unfortunately, I can envisage that many cowboy 'altered' electrics will become a major liability through shortcuts, loss of earthing, etc!

    ** accepted quite a few pre-war households need their wiring renewed - but that is for Government to carryout a advertising campaign, not implement a 'huge regulatory club'!

    *** currently, electrical fires in households are generally due to kitchen appliances being left on overnight to take advantage of cheap electricity !

    I can visualise these Regulations giving 'safety' a bad name - the papers are going to have a 'field' day, especially JC !,

    - your observations would be most appreciated.

    Russell
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    #7 Posted : 30 November 2004 19:59:00(UTC)
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    Posted By Stuart Nagle
    What is interesting is statistics published by the Home Office in respect of the Fire Service. Most of their work nowadays is not attending house fires, but in fact is attending RTA's and 'other incidents' - over 80%

    The fact that fire safety in the home is better nowadays has drastically reduced the incidence of house fires and subsequent loss of life. Faults in wiring are now viewed as somthing of a rarity, or so it would appear, and most such incidents are, it appears, actually the result of electrical appliance mis-use by owners, and the other being due to arson in various forms.

    If this is so, Why part 'P'. Well it off-sets Local Authority costs and is a good earner for Local Government (Building Control Inspections) which may help keep local taxation down... it spawns a whole new system of registration and earns fees so those earning can pay taxes to the Government, so I guess its got to be worth it eh!!

    He say's spitting sparks...

    Stuart

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