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Posted By Peter Younger
Please help!!! Is it really necessary for health and safety training videos to be so dull? i'm looking hard for safety videos that inject a bit of humour, or even entertain staff during training sessions, instead of turning them into clock watching zombies. Does anybody know where I can get safety videos that are not the video equivelent to watching paint dry?
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Posted By Paul Graham Baskeyfield
Hear hear! ....perhaps this is a business opportunity for someone out there?
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Posted By fats van den raad
Peter
I am surprised at your request and your opinion that you find Health and Safety training videos dull. Personally I find them all of great interest and can watch them over and over again.
If you inject humour and other such misplaced emotions into these training videos you will only succeed to draw attention away from the importan and serious message that the video tries to get across.
Safety is a serious bussiness and there is no place for humour or such like frivolities when we are talking about safety. It will just lead to your employees seeing Health and Safety as one big joke.
Keep humour and so called fun where it belongs, in the pubs and drinking halls that employees frequent outside of work hours. There is no place at work for it, and certainly not in the Health and Safety training room!
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Posted By Peter Younger
Mr Fats Van Den Raan
I do not believe that health and safety should be taken lightlty, but I do not see why safety training videos have to be presented with monotone naration etc, frankly I find your responce as painful as some of the videos!
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Posted By Delwynne
Try searching for previous threads on the 'remember charlie' video. It is not remotely funny, but I have not heard a bad word about it from anyone I know who has seen it. It is certainly not dull!
The previous threads will tell you more about the video and where to obtain it.
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Posted By fats van den raad
My dear Mr. Younger
I would really appreciate it if you get my name right before you even begin to argue with me. My surname ends in a "d" not in a "n".
I suppose the reason why you find my answer painfull is because it has not been watered down by "humour". Might it be that you have become so used to receiving information in a humourously diluted format that it actually presents you with a feeling of being uncomfortable when presented with the undiluted version?
As I said, Health and Safety is a serious matter, as is life. A bit more seriousness and a bit less jocularity will make the world a safer place.
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan
Although I'm inclined to express the point with a little less edge, I support Fats' opinion.
Having observed Fats' many constructive observations on this site over time, I feel it would be a shame if his serious observation is misunderstood.
What I would recommend is that humour (which is essentially the optimistic perspective brought to Life)is better served by the trainer's remarks and presence.
If anyone is interested, I can also (seriously) recommend several useful titles on the psychology and philosophy of humour and management.
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Posted By Barry
Surely the video should have the capability of grabbing the audiences attention and keeping them interested for its duration; its the only way for you to have any chance of them digesting the important messages a training video contains. If this is achieved by incorporating humour or horror rather than a plain monotonous video then it can only be a good thing.
I know what I'd rather watch.
Regards,
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Posted By Peter MacDonald
Fats
Most unlike you. Your first response was almost Troll like.
Anyway, videos are usually a cop out and I don't favour them. They are generic at best and typically in my experience a bum covering excercise. See previous posts on "are inductions training". Personally, If I've paid £500 for a days training and someone sticks a video on I'm dissapointed in the lack of effort.
PS. Fats, In many cases it's about capturing your audience with your style and presentation as well as the information and facts. I've also sat through some very factual and precise training on Asbestos removal and struggled to stay awake due to the dour, flat delivery (and videos). On the other hand I've been on some interactive and dare I say it fun training on Safe use of lifting equipment.
If its worth doing it's worth right and all that!
Peter
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Posted By David Muldoon
On the subject of training videos I was on holiday in Bulgaria three years ago and found myself watching a football match on TV. The minute the half time whistle blew a health and safety video came on.
The scene was of a typical warehouse and there was people getting fork lift forks shoved right through them, falling from height and suffering major fractures, limbs being lobbed off, burns and so on - and all this was in te middle of the day! 15 minutes later it was back to the footie. The weirdest half time analysis Ive ever had the pleasure of seeing.
Needless to say this would take some major tracking down but painfully dull it wasnt.
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Posted By Jim Walker
Fats,
This was so out of character I checked someone had not lifted your name. Obviously a bad time of the month.
Peter,
I sort of agree with Fat's - training should be a serious. I often show just a bit of a video that illustrates some point I'm making. The message is serious, its up to the presenter to ensure it is not monotonous.
Having said all that try to track down Frok lift truck driver Klaus. Was discussed about three weeks ago on this site. Even stroppy ol' Fats thinks it's great.
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Posted By Merv Newman
Fats is not trolling, he's being sarcastic. Let him have his fun.
Videos can be useful as PART of a training programme, but EVERYTHING depends on the trainer. He gets paid to turn out trained employees any way he can. Training techniques should grab the attention of the participants from beginning to end. A mix of shock/horror, Fun, silly walks, interesting examples ... whatever it takes to keep them learning. And not sleeping.
I rarely use videos myself, you generally have to turn the lights down and I prefer to be able to see how people are reacting.
I do nearly always use some of the still photos you can find on the safety sites - The double-handed forklift, changing light bulbs in australia (no you don't stand on your head), use of electrical tools in damp or humid environments etc. They combine shock, amusement and make the point.
And no, safety is not a serious matter. Having accidents is serious. Being safe is a pleasure.
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Posted By fats van den raad
Bravo Merv!!!
Wrong time of the month???? I mean.... I know we are suppose to get in touch with our feminine side, but I havn't managed to get THAT much in touch yet.
Peter
Sorry for leading you on.. I suppose it was a troll-like message. I was just being sarcastic as Merv said, playing the devils advocate. You will not believe however how often I have come across exactly that sentiment from fellow proffesionals.
Use videos if you must, but be very selective
Have fun guys and girls, before some b**t**d spoils it for you!!
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Peter, Take a look at this thread which has been mentioned by others: http://www.iosh.co.uk/in...=1&thread=10256&page=121I personally don't like to use videos (because I've had them deployed against me, normally immediately after lunch by some pretty dull trainers in the past).
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Posted By Peter Younger
Wow! what a responce, thank you all for your input. I agree with all the sentiments put forward in this discussion thread. I never rely on videos, I only use them to reiterate a particular point, I also use shock tactics such as the bradford football fire, which has the room shocked silent by the end of it. As mentioned what ever gets the message across. I am a safety manager for one of the UK's biggest retailers, with a large number of stores and an extensive warehouse and distribution centre. I inject humour into my training sessions as it keeps sessions alive, and enthuses the participants, I also believe that If I appear good humoured and approachable, then so is health and safety approachable. As such store managers have no problems contacting me with their safety concerns. The biggest problem I have with safety viseos, is, like Fats, I find them intersesting, but then if I didnt I would be in the wrong job! But video producers need to think about who the video is being aimed at. I am finding it particularly hard to find a video for manual handling and kinetic lifting that keeps an audiences attention, as most of them ar far more advanced and technical than the person who is watching it, prodominently, warehouse assistants who pack and process boxes! this is where my appeal stems from. Any recomendations welcome
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Posted By Chris Ellis
There is a great television series of topics on safety being shown on the History channel at the moment called Seconds From Disaster.
The best one I have seen that relates more to SSOW is the Piper Alpha disaster.
In my view, this is a great way of showing safety whilst keeping the audience interested.
With regards to the 'Remember Charlie' video, when shown on construction sites, as it quite often is, the majority of comments back are "that it has nothing to do with construction" and the underlying message of safety of yourself and others gets lost.
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Posted By Merv Newman
40 years ago (I know, shut it) I saw a black and white film about flammable atmospheres and explosion proof equipment.
The two characters were a bit "laurel and hardie" but they were not trying to be funny, just gently dramatic. They demonstrated lower explosive limits, upper explosive limits and the need for cooling flanges. I can still see thier calm expressions as they gently dropped lighted matches into saturated atmospheres.
About the same time, at hendon tech, our physics teacher demonstrated the flame speed of hydrogen gas : Take a horizontal 2 meter tube filled with hydrogen, remove bung and apply lighted match. Flame shoots along tube with a "wheeeeep" sound, blows other bung through lab window. I can still see it and hear it.
Correct me if my memory is wrong, but I still believe that the LEL of hydrogen is 5% and the UEL is 95%
Those guys had style.
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Peter
I think I will stay out of the debate of humour v seriousness and remain stoical.
Back to the point. Have you considered making your own in-house video? I mention this because I participated in a training video only last week. It was not exactly Laurel and Hardy, but we did have fun making it. The advantage being you can introduce humour or whatever you like.
Yes, it was done professionally with a bonfide production company. Not cheap I am sure. If you would like the contact details of the production company please email me direct.
Regards
Ray
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan
Peter
Since your updated question focuses on 'warehouse assistants who pack and process boxes', it may well be easier to include humour in training by using wooden manikins to highlight what you - and the warehouse assistants themselves - believe can become humourous about manual handling involved in packing by these folk.
A competition, with a genuinely motivating award, for creating a humorous mnemonic about safe manual handling may well achieve your objective for the cost of a couple of day's film hire charges.
As 'improv' and 'folk' entertainers demonstrate, a live performance that's any good has memorable characteristics for those involved far beyond that of canned entertainment.
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Posted By Alison Melrose
A few months ago I watched an old safety video on coal mining safety (I think that was what it was on). Anyway, there were boys playing on a slag heap / railway cart scenarios etc. It was the funniest thing I'd seen for ages..not because of the safety issues..but because of the flares and silly haircuts!!
I still remember a video from school on the periodic table with John Cleese..it was a little ditty and it's stuck in my head to this day....
Hydrogen, helium, lithium....
Boron, carbon..etc.
Used to be able to recite about 80 with that daft ditty!!
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Posted By Nigel Singleton BSc
It would seem that some of you out there have not been on an adult education training course. Whilst I agree that health & safety is a serious subject, the aim is to get staff to remember it, and using humour has been proved to aid the learning experience. An ice breaker is always recomended, you ask any after dinner speaker.
Seriously - lighten up people.
If you do not believe that humour should be used. try looking at the HSE video series featuring NAPO who is a cartoon 'perish the thought'
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Posted By Zoe Barnett
Steady on chaps - the "time of the month" comments are getting a little close to sexism for my taste...we're not all oestrogen-starved bunny-boilers you know!
I recall a very good, informative series of videos which were humourous without destroying the message. Only about 20 mins long, perfect for breaking up a training session into bite sized chunks. One was called "accidents don't happen in the office" and the other, I think, was "whose fault is it anyway." I might be able to track down the makers if it's any help. They were good in that they addressed issues that are not usually covered in such products (ie office hazards and personal responsibility).
In my experience it's good to mix your training techniques because everyone has different learning styles. Videos can be a good way to start a discussion too.
Maybe you need some of those 70s ones with Charlie the Unintelligible Cat!
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Posted By Anne Payne
If it's humour you want, the Video Arts videos were the funniest. They were put together in the mid 80's and featured most of the old Monty Python crew and various young and at the time undiscovered comedians. Can't remember all the titles and they're probably more of a period piece now than anything else.
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