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Posted By RP
Who claims to have most letters after thier name, is there a record (justifiable one)
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Posted By John Beadle
Surely the ladies and gentlemen of the Health Safety profession are not going to get embroiled in a Guinness book of records discussion about letters after their names, we hopefully are all professionals who are working to make our world a safer place to work, not to see who has the most letters after their name. Let us all use this forum for the good of the profession.
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
Quite right, John; it's not what you've got, it's what you do with it that counts.
Paul
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Posted By Lynne Davis
If someone does claim a record, are we looking at one discipline or others, such as surveying, architecture, etc?
Assuming there are talented, multi-disciplined practitioners out there prepared to claim, it could get interesting.
It is most likely to be found where there are tutors of Health & Safety.
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Posted By Jeff
It's just nice to see 'professional' spelt correctly in this type of discussion!!
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Posted By Jim Gostick
Richard Spencer M.Sc M.EnvMgt Grad Dip OHS FIEAust FIMarEST MIOSH RSP must be a start from the recent posting on the support study forum!(The Qualification or the Knowledge)
No sarcasm intented whatsoever Richard.
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Posted By fats van den raad
Is it only the people without letters that suggest they are not important? Like only poor people say "Money isn't everything" and only men that are less blessed in certain physical attributes that say "size doesn't matter"?
Just asking!!
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Posted By Hilary Charlton
Letters after your name? Tsk tsk you have very low aspirations - surely we should be aiming for letters BEFORE the name ie Dr, Sir, Dame, Lord, Lady, etc. If we're going to do it, at least aspire to something worthy!
Hilary
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Posted By Karen Todd Hilary, I could apply for a prenominal: Eur Ing It takes precedence over all other titles except military rank: http://www.qsoft.u-net.com/euring.htmIt would even appear on my passport, and in some countries I'd be saluted as I drove in the gate in the morning!!! However, I have no desire whatsoever to have a title that I can't even pronounce, and (just trying to imagine exactly how it would be pronounced) it probably sounds a little too like 'urine' for my liking... ;) Karen
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Posted By Stuart Nagle
The letters before your name... when they are trying to attract your attention are usually............OOOooooyyyyyyyy...Mr...
And after your name.... once you have left site..... are usually.......unrepeatable....
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Posted By david baird
Dear RP,
You are hi-jacking my train of thought / line of questioning here!!
I was actually asking a serious point re letters, albeit tongue in cheek. I have been in HS for quite a while now and many of the letters still mystify me as I get the impression that many come from Kellogs (or Tesco brand)cornflake packet tokens. I just wondered what many of them were and if holders of them could bring me to light. I do tend to agree with the common perceptions expressed in the forum regarding them though.
Cheers,
D
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Posted By Richard Spencer
What an utterly stupid and divisive thread – the intent might have been noble but it seems to have gravitated to “pearls before swine”.
It is clear there are members that have a massive chip on shoulder about those that have achieved. I never believed that there were those on this chat page that would purposely malign with a child like intent without any thought of being sued for attempting to bring one’s good name into disrepute.
My only comment is and I will make it innocuous as its Christmas is - Get a life.
Stop dreaming about what could be - Go make it happen.
Dave your attempt is feeble and unnecessary. If you have a down on those that have achieved in the profession both academically and career wise, and have a problem dealing with it, why don’t you join some other society – perhaps where your skills would be of more use.
Even if it is Christmas – bad call people, actually pathetic would be a better word.
Lieutenant Commander Richard Spencer RANR
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Posted By Calum R Cameron
Order, Order!!!!!!!
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Posted By John Webster
Mine's a pint
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Posted By Andy Petrie
When I was 14 I visited Jerusalem on a shcool holiday, we were all given a cerificate entitling us to use the letters JP (Jerusalem Pilgrim) after our names.
Given the confusion with a Justice of the Peace I've never used it, although it could probably get me a better seat on a plane.
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Posted By J Knight
Well, I see Dave's point, but remember it's not just H&S that's plagued with this kind of thing. In my previous job at our HR conference we actually had a quiz which consisted of 20 in-house acronyms, and we had to say what they meant. That's in-house acronyms, and it was only a sample; needless to say nobody got 20.
Letters after yer name do have a use; I use mine on formal corporate emails and letters where they stand as a statement that my employer is taking H&S seriously; at least to the extent that they think it's worth their while employing a qualified person. On this forum though I can't really see the point, likewise they have no place in my private life,
John
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Posted By RP
Thank you to all those who have responed to this thread, it all helps with research, etc. I had no idea that it would have opened such a debate.
My next Q is-DO letters mean better jobs?, or even getting a job??
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Posted By J Knight
I think the answer to the sceond querty has to be no; I base this on a number of things. First of all check out the careers forum; lots of people with letters and no work. Then consider that the set of skills needed to pass an exam is not the same as those needed to succeed at interview, and also bear in mind that most safety person specs (mine included) specify relevant experience. Of course, some letters, such as RSP, do imply useful experience, which is I take what all the CMIOSH stuff will be about. Do letters add to your chances of getting a job; well yes, they should, if only for the reasons mentioned in my previous posting on this thread,
John
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Posted By Steve Holliday
At last John Knight comes up with a reasoned response!
Yes letters after your name do have meaning otherwise they wouldn’t be awarded. However bandying them about for no other reason than self-importance degrades their meaning.
Like John (and I suspect quite a number of others) I use them for business use, letters, e-mails, business cards etc., but certainly do not put them on my gas bill or Christmas cards. They do serve to inform the receiver of any communication of the type of person they are dealing with. There are not many architects or engineers that do not use post-nominals on business communications.
Whilst I don’t bother, I can see SOME benefit in using post-nominals on forums of this type as they are open forums available to professionals and pranksters alike. This is only the case however for relevant post-nominals , I can see no benefit in using letters that relate to marine engineering unless the thread is directly related to marine engineering etc.
Ask yourself this (honestly), from purely written comunication you have been given three possible answers to a technical H&S problem, you have no prior knowledge about, from a person with:
1. No post-nominals
2. TechSP
3. MIOSH
Given that each answer is completely different but also could be correct, which answer are you going to give the most credit to?
Post-nominal letters are for professional use, by professionals in professional situations. Petty arguing is not professional. Even though I have added to this thread and my therefore seem a little hypocritical, I feel personally saddened that this thread (and others of its ilk) get so many responses while some very good and important threads get hardly any response.
To sum up, yes letters are important but only when used in the correct context.
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Posted By Nick Higginson
I think post-nominal letters are meaningless and should not be banded around without good reason.
Regards
Nick Higginson MIOSH Dip2.OSH SpDipEM MIIRSM
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